A new topic that is actually old. Ribbon magnet array enclosing a magnet :-)

[Low-Q]

@dieter


I think you are right about the forces that cancel each other out. I was thinking of a bubble in water. It is buoyant because the force of pressure is stronger under it than above it, and that will cause the bubble to rise even if the water is stationary.
The water moves downwards relative to the bubble, but if the bubble is stopped, the water does not start to flow down around the bubble.
The magnet that is inside the magnet array, could be that bubble if the forces in front and back are different, but they can't be.
It could be very similar to the bubble in water, except the water is replaced by an array of magnets, and the bubble is replaced by a magnet.


I was thinking, what if the magnet is stationary. Would the array start "flowing" below and over it? I don't think so. Just like the water wont start flowing around a bubble if the bubble is stationary. Except there is most probably a big difference. The magnet does not want to go anywhere because there are no forces that push it through the array. Or is it? If so, we have a "bubble" that never reach the surface.


What do you think of this, dieter?

[dieter]

@ Vidar,


yes, I think I understand. But in your design as shown, the rollers build corners. If this works at all, you must get rid off the corners and have the ribbon get closer continously. Still, theoreticly impossible, although that doesn't mean much to me


@ Floor,
Yeah, Searl was the Capt'n Nemo of Free Energy. He even had his fancy Pilot Uniform. I felt sorry for him, yet very inspiring that he never gave up.


Tried to replicate some of his disc, without success, probably due to lack of the right materials, dedication and patience.

[Low-Q]

Totally agree. I see it clear. The upper and lower front rollers and the last two rollers are forced via the ribbons in wrong direction due to the attraction and repulsion from the magnet - The ribbon actually counterforce the magnet via rollers because they are fixed to the magnet.
Deepest in my mind I knew this wouldn't work, but did not see the reason until now

@ Vidar,


yes, I think I understand. But in your design as shown, the rollers build corners. If this works at all, you must get rid off the corners and have the ribbon get closer continously. Still, theoreticly impossible, although that doesn't mean much to me


@ Floor,
Yeah, Searl was the Capt'n Nemo of Free Energy. He even had his fancy Pilot Uniform. I felt sorry for him, yet very inspiring that he never gave up.


Tried to replicate some of his disc, without success, probably due to lack of the right materials, dedication and patience.