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A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts

Started by Eighthman, March 10, 2017, 12:17:11 PM

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Quote from: Vortex1 on March 18, 2017, 04:32:57 PM
When I first scanned the patent, I thought well, close but no cigar, SM did not use gas tubes.

On a more thorough read, I can see that this is a very good find and good fit for the TPU as it shows that the travelling wave can effect the electrons in a solid metallic conductor or semiconductor (the collector) so a gas tube is not necessarily needed.

If you have any related pa
Exactly what just revealed patent states that  travelling wave drags electrons in metallic conductor, the same way as in the gases or plasma. Tokamak related plasma heating stuff, by current drive.
Here is much more earlier patent:
US847,008


Regards,
Pix

Vortex1

Quote from: pix on March 18, 2017, 04:50:04 PM
Exactly what just revealed patent states that  travelling wave drags electrons in metallic conductor, the same way as in the gases or plasma. Tokamak related plasma heating stuff, by current drive.
Here is much more earlier patent:
US847,008


Regards,
Pix

Not sure about the above quoted patent. I and a lot of others have done experiments using iron wire as the core of a transformer or induction device, and I can say that I never was able to observe anything noteworthy. Maybe others have.

Also the early date of the patent rules out RF excitation, unless by spark gap and resonant circuit or LF generator, as vacuum tubes had not yet been invented. No reference to a RF excitation is given.

I think your first patent hits the nail on the head. I started to use a highlighter for the good parts, but soon the whole pages were yellowed.  ;)

I searched the citations in the Thoneman et al patent and the first one was the closest, 2096460

Turbo

And we have successfully diverted attention and started a new patent hunt.
The only problem is that patents aren't going to help.... the only thing that can help, are results.

Vortex1

Quote from: Turbo on March 18, 2017, 08:30:12 PM
And we have successfully diverted attention and started a new patent hunt.
The only problem is that patents aren't going to help.... the only thing that can help, are results.

No I'm finished with the patent hunts, there is enough in the first patent that fits the TPU like a key pushing the tumblers of a lock.

Problem is, a lot of patents don't actually work, but this one reads as if the experiments and reporting are real with some graphs of input RF current vs output current.

Other problem is, a lot of folks (including myself) have swept RF through custom built transmission line coils like this without anything interesting happening and not a hint of DC on the collector.  I and another person have been working on the transmission line method for a few months now in our spare time with nothing significant to report.

The NMR direction is also a viable path but no one yet seems to have results from those experiments either. And by results I mean a stand alone portable power source as SM demonstrated, not something hooked to a power supply gobbling up watts while lighting a tiny LED.

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting.

Turbo

This world is full of idiots.
The only way for them to have a working tpu (stand alone portable power source as SM demonstrated) is when someone else will deliver one at their doorstep.
And that isn't going to happen soon.
I'm working with the largest energy corporations, to hook it up to the net, like wind and solar.
This is the most logical economic step.
So even if you are using tpu power in the future, your still gonna have to pay for it....

Just like anything else, really.
Unless you are going to get your hands dirty, and what are the odds that that is going to happen ??
.....