The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[Zephir]

Perhaps, so as a matter of interest where did Roma (Akula) hide his car battery then, it must have been in another dimension then? Aren't we constantly being bombarded with plasma streams and charged particles from the Sun ? there is also the deception from corporate 'quackery' trying to halt the 'free' independence thing ect. which result in pressure on those in the 'know how to' area to 'doctor saboteur' this know how information

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This is the same story: if you don't believe in overunity, what are waiting for here?

I already answer in the topic "solid state devices / Re: FE Device by 'Armored Train" that circuit is only a more efficient way to discharge a capacitor

After then I don't understand Your story about Japanese company, which you allegedly sold this circuit for few thousands Euro... ;-)

[synchro1]

I'm in an Internet kiosk because my 5th straight laptop froze up from a fatal Overunity virus. My last comment was 6 pages ago because the kiosk was closed on Sunday. I did the magnet strength test on both the single wire and serial coils and both lifted the same number of Hex nuts. This comes as no surprise due to the identical inductance.

However, as I pointed out, the serial bifilar generates a spontaneous gain while in self resonance when coupled to a ferrite core resulting in a magnetizing effect.

Secondly, and more importantly, I described the magnet wave induction grid where incresed voltage, transformed from a large storage battery, can instantly match the load. This beats running a coal fired generator at full tilt to feed amperage into the grid.

The longitudinal magnet wave is the transverse wave traveling sideways. Power can be moved faster and more efficiently by way of magnetic induction, then by sending sinusoidal electricy through a conductor end to end.

Eric Dollard is trying to isolate specific XM Sirius type frequencies to allow for billing consumers from a Wardenclyffe transmitter.
Skycollection's layered bifilars in self resonance can be buried underground and carry power by magnetisem instead of electricity. A much more efficient grid.     

[nelsonrochaa]

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...about Japanese company, which you allegedly sold this circuit for few thousands Euro... ;-)

Hi Zephir ,
Is not Japanese but South Korean  company , and i not allegedly sell , i sell in very real business €   .

What you don't understand ?  I tell you i'm PM that i sold it in 2014 and after that i start work to a German company where i work at present time in energy alternative field  , i know my English is not the best , but i think most able to understand .
If you want say something more , ask me in PM i don't need expose myself to others .

cheers

Nelson Rocha

[synchro1]

Dr. Myrl's video lecture series involves calculating the optimal spacing between serial bifilar pancake transmitter and reciever coils.

"The Old Scientist" ends his video series with two flag poles in the picture. Skycollection has his bifilar pancakes closer to each other then necessary.

A good place for them would be atop Elon Musk's "Hyper-Loop; Not only could they supply power to the levitaion tracks, but they could continue to transfer the leftover power over a long distance say from Las Vegas to Los Angeles, to help feed the grid in the megalópolis.   

[MileHigh]

It's a slow news day on the thread so I whipped up a graphic.  I am doing it because I am pretty sure that there are many pancake coil enthusiasts out there that may have not considered all of the magnetic field and magnetic flux self-cancellation that occurs in a pancake coil.

The graphic shows any two arbitrary current loops in a pancake coil.  The blue loop is the inner loop and the red loop is the outer loop.  The graphic represents what is taking place in the plane of the pancake coil.

As you can see, between any two arbitrary current loops in the pancake coil, there is a yellow area of flux cancellation.  The fine purple line represents were the net magnetic field is zero.

I suppose the moral of the story is that if you are doing some basic experiments with coils and trying to figure out how they work, you are probably better of just making a standard cylindrical coil first.  Do some tests on that coil to understand its transient characteristics, its DC characteristics, and its AC characteristics.  Learn how the coil discharges through a resistive load.  Measure the L/R time constant using your scope.  Derive the value of the inductance from the L/R time constant.  Then measure the frequency of an LC resonator using your scope.  Derive the value of the inductance from the resonator frequency.  Then compare your inductance measurement using the time constant, the resonance frequency, and with an LC meter if you have one.  Learn and understand how the coil produces high-voltage spikes because it acts like a current source when it discharges.  It's not "radiant energy," that is just nonsensical fantasy talk.  Experiment with your standard cylindrical coil and understand how it ticks.

Then, go make yourself a pancake coil and go through the same exercise with the pancake coil.  You are going to discover that the pancake coil works in exactly the same way as the cylindrical coil.  You should see that for about the same amount of wire, a cylindrical coil gives you more inductance.

Then after doing that, enter the fabled and mysterious realm of self-resonance for the coil.  This is where the coil is failing to function as a coil anymore.  In essence, it is the same thing as making a conventional LC resonator using a discrete inductor and capacitor.  So, you have a coil self-resonating at a very high frequency with its own self-capacitance.  It represents a tiny energy storage resonator that will discharge almost instantly.  Does it have any practical value at all?  Personally, I can't think of one myself.  I view a self-resonating coil as a coil that is no longer working and instead its having a kind of epileptic seizure.  The coil only functions properly as a coil below the self-resonance frequency.  At the self-resonance frequency it's kind of useless.

Again, before you even approach studying the self-resonance of a coil, you should do the tests I outlined above and fully understand them and have a complete mastery of how a coil works.  A coil is equivalent to a mechanical flywheel in just about any way you can think of.  If you fully understand how a coil works and presumably you already intuitively understand how a mechanical flywheel works, you should be able to go back and forth between the electrical model for inductance and the mechanical model for inductance with no difficulty at all.

What i say above is the real deal and it would be a worthwhile exercise for anybody that wants to understand how a coil actually works.