The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[Zephir]

You are fascinated by the fact that a bifilar pancake coil can store energy between the adjacent turns of the coil.  Say that there is 50 volts between turns and there are 10 turns.  Well, you can put a 500-volt capacitor across an entire conventional solenoid coil and get the same results. To put it another way, you can replace a bifilar pancake coil with a regular solenoid coil in parallel or in series with a very small high-voltage capacitor.

The distributed impedance works very differently than the discrete one in HF circuits. It leads for example into so-called metamaterial behavior of circuits, which simply has no analogy in classical circuits - so it's a source of a new quality. The distributed capacity isn't the source of bifilar coil overunity though - in the same way, like any other capacity (or resonance) by itself. Once something can be described with classical law (which are energy conservation based), then it also doesn't lead to overunity. But the distributed impedance is undoubtedly more close to overunity, than the discrete one just because of its new emergent quality.

You cannot replicate the Akula / Kapanadze devices simply by wiring their coils according to diagram: their geometry, orientation and size are also important. But you're person willing to say, that it even doesn't matter, if some coil is bifilar or just normal one with some capacitor attached. With such way of thinking you're literally wasted for the whole overunity thing. Now we can only discuss, if this way of thinking is the product of your ignorance or just evil intentions to confuse and systematically mislead the readers of this forum.

On this thread we are not debating free energy.  We are just discussing a pancake coil.  Can't you discuss within that framework?

Nope, because this forum is about overunity. If you want to understand overunity, you should remain focused to subject instead of distracted with classical aspects of electronics. I'm just explaining you, why you never succeed with overunity experiments: you're systematically focused just to the aspects of classical circuits, which prohibits you to understand it. The sentence of yours, that "you can replace the distributed impedance with discrete one" illustrates clearly your problem with thinking.

[ramset]

Zephir
If you can highlight a Pancake coil experiment which shows a true anomaly

we can probably get quality replicators lined up out the door...

Please post one ??

respectfully
Chet K

[MileHigh]

The distributed impedance works very differently than the discrete one in HF circuits. It leads for example into so-called metamaterial behavior of circuits, which simply has no analogy in classical circuits - so it's a source of a new quality.

You really are a hoot.  Just like some well known people have claimed that giant pulse motors work differently in the Southern Hemisphere as compared to the Northern Hemisphere.

I will just restate that you are welcome to start your own thread and just do it.

[citfta]

OK Zephir you have made several ridiculous claims in this thread with absolutely nothing to back up those claims.  But let's try to have just a little bit of a discussion.  In your own words what does distributed impedence mean?  What do you consider a HF circuit to be?  And lastly, what the heck is metamaterial behavior?

If you can't describe what those things mean to you then you need to take a hike far far away because if you can't explain what they mean to you then you are just here being a troll and hindering those that are actually trying to learn.  Chet has asked for an example of an anomaly that you think indicates OU.  I am asking for you to give some kind of sense to the words you are using.  It is time to man up and either admit you don't have any thing but a bunch of words or back those words up.

And you have never answered the question asked by some of us about your claim there are no such thing as electrons.  If they don't exist then explain how an electron beam welder can weld.  Do you even know what an electron beam welder is without looking it up?  How can a CRT screen show pictures if there are no electrons energizing the phosphor dots?  How can those things work if electrons don't exist?  I am really looking forward to that explanation since I have worked on both of them for many years.

[MileHigh]

TK:

This is an off-topic but techie clip that I think is going to blow your mind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_S9YsD9Y0c

MileHigh