The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[web000x]

Are you claiming OU or anything special when you light up your 100-watt 230-volt light bulb with your Tesla series bifilar pancake coil transformer?  Yes or no?

I am pretty sure that the answer is no.  Therefore the fact that you lit the bulb up is pointless, it does not demonstrate anything special about the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil.  Therefore my questions still stand.

What is the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil good for?  What can you do with it?

Don't get mad at me for asking the questions that we all should be asking.

Here's a novel idea... Let people do what they do.  Natural selection of innovation, or lack-there-of, at its finest...


You tell people they waste time looking at the bifilar coil but how much time do you waste telling them there is nothing to it?


I thought I was going to enjoy this thread but haven't been able to digest the whole thing due to the noise level.


Dave

[MileHigh]

Here's a novel idea... Let people do what they do.  Natural selection of innovation, or lack-there-of, at its finest...

You tell people they waste time looking at the bifilar coil but how much time do you waste telling them there is nothing to it?

I thought I was going to enjoy this thread but haven't been able to digest the whole thing due to the noise level.

Dave

I have a novel concept for you.  I am letting people do what they want to do.  In fact I have no control over what they want to do at all.  You are just playing the same old game where you are "not supposed" to say anything but positive things and if you have nothing positive to say, then don't say anything at all.  That's a sure fire recipe for stagnation and going nowhwere.  I am challenging people to do something that is real, and be realistic about what they are doing.  That is a good thing.  I am not telling people that they are wasting their time, you are just doing a negative spin, don't play straw man on me.

How many threads over the years do you think have been devoted to this Tesla bifilar pancake coil?  I am pretty sure that there have been dozens and dozens of them and I bet you they all petered out and went nowhere without any conclusion at all.

My contribution is not "noise," don't be ridiculous.  I have brought real value to this thread.

Is there any real use for a Tesla bifilar pancake coil?  If you think asking that question is wrong on a thread about the Tesla bifilar pancake coil then you are the one that is wrong.

[MileHigh]

Hi Gyula,

yes i figured that the chunky caps and cliplead wiring would be the cause of the coupling on that distance.

I will do some extra tests to get the led lit as it was lit when using my earlier used pickup coil (coiled up wires).


Thanks,   Itsu

Great clip again Itsu.  I think you were asked to get both coils to resonate together in the hope that something special would happen.  In fact noting special would happen.  Both resonating coils would have higher oscillating currents and therefore the resistive power dissipation would increase for the system.  So if you achieved dual resonance, the power supplied to the system by your function generator would increase, and the corresponding resistive power being burnt off in each resonating coil would increase.

I can already hear some people moaning.  It's time to face reality again:  A self-resonating coil is being driven by an outside power source, in this case it is a function generator.  You clearly see an increase in the oscillating voltage across the coil when it is self-resonant.  What you don't clearly see is an increase in the oscillating current in the coil when it is self-resonant, and the corresponding increase in power dissipation.

In the context of what you are seeing in Itsu's clips, you have to understand and deal with what is really happening in terms of energy and power, and not just "get excited" because you are seeing something resonating.  Just understand and appreciate this valuable and legitimate information without calling me a "bad guy."

[nelsonrochaa]

Are you claiming OU or anything special when you light up your 100-watt 230-volt light bulb with your Tesla series bifilar pancake coil transformer?  Yes or no?

I am pretty sure that the answer is no.  Therefore the fact that you lit the bulb up is pointless, it does not demonstrate anything special about the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil.  There are better ways to make a transformer.  Therefore my questions still stand.

What is the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil good for?  What can you do with it?

Don't get mad at me for asking the questions that all of us should be asking.

I not make claim's of any important points of my particular work on this forum or in others forums .
I don't need catch attention to promote my work , but i like give my own opinion too , and i know even you don't agree with me in some points, you could respect my own opinion like i respect your opinion even we could disagree .

I just give you a example how that pancake coils could be used to transfer electric power in a efficient way  without ferrite or iron core like normal transformer use, contrary to what you defend until now and i respect that .

That is based in my own and practical observation of course ,Precisely the opposite of what you do all time, because you are a pure "theorist".
You could assume that my observation are wrong, and that could happen because i learn in my life that not all that glitters is gold , and that is the reason to my work be evaluated not only by me but by other more qualified people, and that is really fair don't you think ?
In that way you could assume clearly that i don't need your approval in relation to this matter.

You have your own opinion based in your particular knowledge , not in a practical way, but based in assumed  "evidences" like indisputable and irrefutable laws.

Did i claim OU in my observations ? No
If i achieve  OU will i publish that to you ? Of course not . What i could espect if i assume that ? Problems and more  problems nothing more .
I just say to you that is possible transfer with high efficiency electric power with bifilar pancake coil , and that is a advantage to a conventional transformer because don't need use iron ferrite in their core .

Why i should get mad with you ? You are a nice person even we have so high differences in how you are in life, and how we treat other persons .

Have a nice day MH

Nelson Rocha

[web000x]

I have a novel concept for you.  I am letting people do what they want to do.  In fact I have no control over what they want to do at all.  You are just playing the same old game where you are "not supposed" to say anything but positive things and if you have nothing positive to say, then don't say anything at all.  That's a sure fire recipe for stagnation and going nowhwere.  I am challenging people to do something that is real, and be realistic about what they are doing.  That is a good thing.  I am not telling people that they are wasting their time, you are just doing a negative spin, don't play straw man on me.

How many threads over the years do you think have been devoted to this Tesla bifilar pancake coil?  I am pretty sure that there have been dozens and dozens of them and I bet you they all petered out and went nowhere without any conclusion at all.

My contribution is not "noise," don't be ridiculous.  I have brought real value to this thread.

Is there any real use for a Tesla bifilar pancake coil?  If you think asking that question is wrong on a thread about the Tesla bifilar pancake coil then you are the one that is wrong.

Well, seeing that the bifilar coil engenders a situation of mutual induction, mutual capacity,(MK) self induction, and self capacity,(LC) it would seem like it has all of the requirements for Dollard's four quadrant theory of electricity.   I feel the idea of further investigation should not be dismissed as I've seen things with my own eyes that show that the MK form of propagation does not behave the same as the LC.  Not to mention that I was privy to a few skype conversations with Erfinder. No matter how many times you tell us there is nothing to the bifilar coil, I will never forget my experiences and will continue investigation.


Dave