Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback

[hartiberlin]

Just to chuck something in to the pot  - think steel or iron wire for the twisted pair not copper

I already tested this.
There is no more induction than in copper,
so much less than 1 millivolt, my 0.15 Volts DC voltmeter full scale pointer just does not move..!

[hartiberlin]

@Merv,
just had a look at your second video now !
You are a great teaser , aren?t you ! 

Thanks for naming my domain.

So, are you using a thermocouple or a hall
sensor at the tip of the twisted pair wire to generate
a voltage ?

[smarthousesys]

stephan

was not thinking induction - more magnetic attraction per the reverse smot idea

[hartiberlin]

Ahh, I see,
you mean the rotating magnet is attracted to the iron
twisted pair wire and so will accelerate as in a SMOT ramp
and then induce current inside the center coil ?

This could also be the case, right !
Good idea !

[Adzoe]

@Adzoe,

Viewing http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm one sees exactly what I said.  You have added the potential energy of the magnetic attraction to the equation when you performed "drop from the output."  Actually the "drop" is from the input of the SMOT.

I followed your argument reviewing the case.  However, it is not sound.  The completion of loop ABCA (and the input of the SMOT in the Naudin experiment)includes placing the ball at the beginning of the SMOT.  If we removed gravity from the equation the ball would not naturally move to the beginning of the SMOT, as that is not the natural magnetic resting position.  It would instead rise to the end of the SMOT.  You are not considering the energy needed to move the ball to the beginning of the SMOT in your calculations.  That energy is relatively small so it is easy to overlook.  The "benefit" shown in the Naudin video is likewise small.  This analysis shows your error of logic in both the Naudin and the other experiment.