Some Bifilar coil experiments

[Zephir]

There are two possibilities to connect a bifilar wound coil wire 1 and 2 parallel the end is closed

Inside Tesla coil the currents also can propagate against each other in neighboring wires, but it requires high frequency and specific resonance condition - so that the standing waves of distributed impedance interfere each other. I don't know in this moment, if it's necessary condition of overunity and if the type A) wouldn't actually work better in wider ranger of frequencies. At any case, it would be interesting, if the replicators here would check and measure behavior of both variants (A, D) of bifilar coil at once - if nothing else, than just for comparison.

[Magluvin]

Inside Tesla coil the currents also can propagate against each other in neighboring wires, but it requires high frequency and specific resonance condition - so that the standing waves of distributed impedance interfere each other. I don't know in this moment, if it's necessary condition of overunity and if the type A) wouldn't actually work better in wider ranger of frequencies. At any case, it would be interesting, if the replicators here would check and measure behavior of both variants (A, D) of bifilar coil at once - if nothing else, than just for comparison.

In the case for D type as you show, I dont think the LRC diagram next to it is correct. I think the cap resistor and coil should all be in series. The way your diagram shows, there is no resistance in series with the cap nor the inductor and in circuit with only a resistor in parallel as shown, that would make the cap and coil ideal in where they have no resistance between the input terminals. So immediately the cap would charge at infinite current levels. BOOM!.  The Type D coils resistance is the coil, so it would be series, and the capacitance built into the coils windings is also a series situation where the resistance of the coil would RC time the charge to the cap from input.  Like if the type D were to get an initial input of dc, the cap would have to charge through the coil and the coil is the resistance. In the LRC depiction, the cap gets input charge despite the inductor or resistor. Make sense?  And if you have picked up that description picture from some book , etc, they need to review what they are posting as fact.

Mags

[Magluvin]

In the case for D type as you show, I dont think the LRC diagram next to it is correct. I think the cap resistor and coil should all be in series. The way your diagram shows, there is no resistance in series with the cap nor the inductor and in circuit with only a resistor in parallel as shown, that would make the cap and coil ideal in where they have no resistance between the input terminals. So immediately the cap would charge at infinite current levels. BOOM!.  The Type D coils resistance is the coil, so it would be series, and the capacitance built into the coils windings is also a series situation where the resistance of the coil would RC time the charge to the cap from input.  Like if the type D were to get an initial input of dc, the cap would have to charge through the coil and the coil is the resistance. In the LRC depiction, the cap gets input charge despite the inductor or resistor. Make sense?  And if you have picked up that description picture from some book , etc, they need to review what they are posting as fact.

Mags

Considering what I said above I was thinking of the possibility of the cap and inductor in parallel with a resistor in series with that, but it still is the inductor that is resistive, and the current from the input needs to go through the inductor to charge the cap, so Im sticking with what I said above.

[evostars]

type d, series or parallel?
I've made a post of it earlier.

for me its neither. the fields interact, as ONE.  it can't be translated to a series or parallel inductor capacitor wire resistance. because it is not made of seperate fields.  the coil has inductance and capacitance,  and resistance all at the same time,  in the same space. So to me it can't be series or parallel.

[Dog-One]

for me its neither. the fields interact, as ONE.  it can't be translated to a series or parallel inductor capacitor wire resistance. because it is not made of seperate fields.  the coil has inductance and capacitance,  and resistance all at the same time,  in the same space. So to me it can't be series or parallel.

I'm with Evo on this one.  In one of Eric Dollard's videos he goes into the extreme complexity of a transformer winding, typically multi-layered.  For any single segment of wire, you have varying magnetic flux all around, some counter and some the same, each with different intensities.  That's just the magnetic portion.  Then we add in all the non-conductive spaces where the dielectric fields are.  It becomes a complete mess to calculate.  Modern day engineers attempt to wash all that complexity away with turns ratios and coupling factors, but that's not what is really going on at the level of the fields.  I didn't even bring in the effect at the atomic layer of the physical materials used and how resistance plays into things.  Everything matters.  You can't just simplify it all away.  There's a symphony of forces at work in these coils.  You have to be able to see it all in your minds eye to have any hope of manipulating it correctly.