A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome

[h20power]

My research for Meyers was deeper than both you and Max, conclusion: Likely it was misrepresented and is it worth following the brother of misrepresented? I was gonna finish the circuit and offer it as a board 500$ a pop for a stable amplifier to investigate the claim of resonant electrolysis. My theory is that financing by the people is my right, your money would be better placed if you let me do the experimentations, naturally it was a hard sell since it was heard to convince people that Stan was probably confused and it his brother said so in the interview.. Unfortunately, I had bothersome wannabees on the other side trying to sabotage my economics due to me selling wire before that. You idiots were in my way on that road that lead nowhere, bothersome H2Opower's and the like claiming to be onto something... I needed at least 2000$ to build the cell exactly how I wanted + other things, audio transformers with wide bandwidth. And then I would have attempted a proper Stephen Meyers replication, and fully taking into account everything.

He camouflaged normal electrolysis in high voltage high resistance system but in the end all is just normal electrolysis

His sytem work with regular slightly impure water and causes less heat, but less gas, its just a trick of wording and he sold ALOT.

So you are just on square 1 still, and what happened to the "gas processor", you never even touched it lol. Still you got that picture I saw 7 years ago. At least that would have made sense if you explored things on this avenue ala Herman Anderson but it seems nothing happens when you spend 30k on research with Bank's money. I would never invest in a dummy like you, you have no plan whatsoever on how to complete a single component.

You are too slow and you wasted too much time. Nobody is ever gonna listen to you, I would have banned you immediatly, you are not the man in charge, anything you say amounts to being wrong as it regards to efficient electrolysis of water.

I rather listen my Cat's view on Stanley Meyers than you "explaining how it works". It dont work, its fraud...

Your sick and you need professional help and you need to check yourself in to be evaluated at a mental clinic. If you think I prevented you from doing something you are doomed to failure as that is a sign of mental instability in blaming others for your own personal failures in life. In 7-8 years time you haven't built what it is you wanted to build that is on you. This $30k I spent is looking at all I have spent since 2006 when I got started into this research which averages out to just $2,727 per year and it's my own money from which I am free to spend it on what every I feel like spending it on. But you seem to have a problem with people spending their own hard earned cash as paraphrasing you it would have been better spent on you. Even you have to start to admit that your elevator doesn't seem to go all the way to the top floor with this line of thinking you have.
I get help from people as they can see I am willing to invest in myself and they can also see that my story hasn't really changed much over the years. They can also see that since I got started on this I have improved much in my goal of reaching Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology, IE, 1-2kv of potential difference per resonant cavity. In my very first attempt at this technology I go a little over 300 volts to be applied to one of the exciter arrays that I built. I did so at a time when everyone around me were only getting 5-15 volts with their setups. With many failures I learned how to get the voltages up with these VIC transformers and I began to understand the science behind the technology. My major breakthrough came in 2012 and after a years wait to save up to pay for the minimum buy from the transformer core company upon receiving them and testing them out for the very first time at the 2013 Global BEM I went from 1.2kv to 4.2kv being applied to my exciter array. But that did not reach Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology so as the scientific method has us to do I went back to experimenting and studying. After I made a new VIC transformer I made it to something like 5.6kv. I studied what was going on through a lot of math, and good observations of the transformers performance and when I made a new one made it to 7.5kv, and I repeated this process over and over again reaching 8.0kv, 8.2kv, 8.4kv, 8.8kv, and then to my new high of 9.4kv. This is how the scientific method works. But you have a problem with this as I am spending my money on my own experiments and getting closer to the goal of reaching Meyer's stated voltages needed for the working conditions of this technology.


Everyone that saw the interview video of me at the 2013 Global BEM saw my partners circuit which is far cheaper than $500 bucks being used to power up this technology and you know what Meyer said about this in that the one with the cheapest method is going to win out so I guess you have a beef with him too which further shows you need to be mentally evaluated by a professional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhQusfWuac&t=479s
And furthermore your statement of Meyer's technology being a fraud is totally unfounded as you have never reached his stated working conditions for this technology and thus have no bases for you accusations. So, in laymen's terms, "You don't have a pot or a window to throw it out of!" Seriously, you need to get mental help as something is wrong with your mind.


If in 7-8 years you haven't built what it is you wanted to build that is on you and only you and only a sick individual would go around blaming others for their failure to build something with that much time elapse. So, let me do a bit of math for you, you state that you need $2k and lets divide that by 7 years and see what's the amount of money you would have had to save to have your $2k. $2000 divided 7 equals $285.71 per year is all you would have had to save and your going to try and blame this on me and others for your failure to save the money you need? Dude you really need help as you are missing quite a few marbles if this is how you think.


As for the pace I keep what concern is that of yours as I have a family to raise and saving money thus can sometimes be a challenge but I manage to get the job done to the best of my abilities to do so. Besides being mentally unstable your problem is you don't know how to work for what you want. Your parents did a poor job of raising you if how you see the world is thinking that everyone in it owes you something and thus should be paying your way in life. Grow up and seek mental help already as in this world us poor folk have to work for the things we want and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! But the fault of your failures on this technology and as a man are with you and you alone so don't go around blaming others for your failure to prioritize your monies so that you could build the things you wanted to build as 7-8 years is a long time to still be sitting behind your keyboard still just typing away with no real work to show for what you believe in. Seek mental help as trust me you need it.

[pomodoro]

Its not too hard to go bananas when investigating OU. Its mentally very tough.  There is another guy who  claimed to have made great progress with this technology. Chessnyt, haven't heard much from him but he claimed to have hit the jackpot.

[h20power]

Its not too hard to go bananas when investigating OU. Its mentally very tough.  There is another guy who  claimed to have made great progress with this technology. Chessnyt, haven't heard much from him but he claimed to have hit the jackpot.

That's a name I haven't heard of in a long time. From my observations of people working on this technology if they fail to make use of the scientific method most of the time they will resort to making claims that they can not substantiate, and I have seen others that are so afraid to fail that they never start. The scientific method has failure built right into it as whom ever came up with that method knew that at once you don't succeed try try again. At first I too was a bit afraid to fail due to how many people on the forum responded negatively to peoples failures. But over time I learned to simply ignore them as they have no idea how the scientific method actually works. It's truly called, "Failing to learn" once you understand it's concepts. It is a very long process most of the time but it makes one follow a form that will lead to a solution most of the time but not all of the time. I understand that failing is a part of life and if one is afraid to fail they will never succeed.


Thanks to how I was brought up I am practically immune to pier pressure and will do what ever it is I was intending on doing no matter what people are saying. What truly gets under my skin is when people don't do their own work but think they have something important to say about the subject having absolutely no real world experience from which to work from. I even gave these type of people a name calling them, "Arm Chair Scientist." This is what truly gets under my skin most of the time as they will also resort to doing a lot of lying just to try and make themselves seem important in front of others. I remember one such guy that told everyone that he was getting 50kv to his eleven cell exciter array after I had showed the group a photo reading of 7.5kv being applied to my cell. Now I knew he was full of BS but had to figure out a way to cleverly trick him into telling the truth. I ask a few questions about his stated voltages as to what probe did he use to measure it. After a little time had passed he finally responded that he didn't have a differential probe so I talked him into starting a crowdfund so that we could help him get one. He was so excited to be getting some money that he completely forgot about what he had said to the group about getting 50kv to his exciter array. I went ahead and put in $50 bucks to help him get one and a few others pitched in and he ended up getting the 30kv differential probe. He was so excited that he told of his actual voltage that he was applying to his exciter array. It was at that time I posted his words of getting 50kv to his cell just to make himself seem to be doing better than me in front of the forum members. I also took the time to inform him of Meyer's stated working voltages for this technology and pointed out that he's claims were some 30kv over Meyer's stated maximum for a working system. It was the best $50 bucks I had ever spent as I had to prove him wrong for if his claims were in fact true then Meyer was a fraud and the science I uncovered suggested otherwise.


It took him a while to catch on to just what I had done to him but in the end he did get the tools he needed to actually be working on this technology as I thought it was the least I could do to help out someone that seemed to have his heart in the right place. Plus I got what I wanted which was the truth to be told so as I said for me it was a good way for me to spend my money as I spent it on getting at the truth while helping out someone that was less fortunate than myself. Yes, I went through all of this to get at the truth as that is just how serious I am about this technology. Honestly I was going to try and help out this Arm guy a little but once I saw that response of desiring to spend others people's money other than to use his own I was done with him as that to me is a clear sign of a scammer. I have a way at getting the truth out of people and now we all know he needs mental help as something is wrong with him on the inside that requires the help of a professional skilled in the art of mental assistance for the mentally challenged among us.


For me the truth will out as that is exactly what I set out to do with Meyer's work prove once & for all if what he was saying was true or false and I can't do that unless I reach his stated working conditions for this technology, none of us can.

[Acca]

Some one just posted my clips from years ago.. I distilled water 4 times and spin it in a centrifuge.. that is how..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwa_qS-KA-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3z545Sc3Mg

[pomodoro]

Nice vids ACCA. Are you saying that water in the bottle is storing way more charge than would mercury metal in the same bottle??