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Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology

Started by antimony, April 25, 2017, 09:09:27 AM

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gyulasun

Hi Lidmotor,

I think if you use the same air core coil in a Slayer exciter as the oscillator coil you could also make this interesting setup work, that would be your function generator. Just make a 4-10 turn winding to one of the ends of that coil, that would be the coupling coil connected into the collector of the oscillator transistor. The free top end of the air core coil would have the cliplead. The frequency would remain near to 11 MHz: the oscillator would operate anyway at the air core coil's quarter wave resonance automatically. This way the DC input power could be accessed too.

It is interesting you think the 1N4148 diodes work as switches. Well, you said it is a giant AV plug and I agree with this latter, and the capacitively coupled current in the diodes loop can only go in one direction indeed. It is okay that the capacitive coupling is very low, must have a low value, even 1-2 pF or maybe less from the cliplead wire but the RF nearfield is surely so high (standing wave at the open end of the coil and alongside the cliplead) that all the diodes are able to conduct in one direction.  Notice the diodes forward voltages accumulate: 7 times 0.65V + 6 times the LEDs forward voltages, conduction in the loop can only result when the coupled RF voltage amplitudes are higher than the sum of these. 

The direction of the current is known: the positive input of the LED board should receive a positive voltage with respect to its negative input so it is the cathode of an 1N4148 (let's label it as the 1st diode) which should be connected to the positive input of the LEDs, ok? And so on: the 2nd diode's cathode drives the anode of the 1st diode.
In your video the positive input to the LED board must be at the bottom right where the cathode of the diode there is connected to the board, that is what I label as the 1st diode.
In conventional sense the current flows clockwise in your loop: the 1st diode's cathode point is the DC positive the loop creates there and the anode of the last diode at the bottom left provides the DC negative point.  I consider the diode loop as mainly a DC generator driving the series LEDs, the loop receives energy via capacitive coupling. Roughly at least 17-18V DC is to be generated to get that brightness for 6 white LEDs I suppose, try to measure it across the LEDs input, filter it with some uF electrolytic cap across the positive and negative.

Thanks,  Gyula

NickZ

   Lidmotor:   Yes, it works, but, is it really any better or more efficient than just connecting the clip lead to the diode loop?

   WE need to see if this is actually any better than normal form of wiring up some LEDs. Or even compared to what a Slayer Exciter can do. As the Doc has not shown the difference between this type of diode loop set up, and a normal one, as far an efficiency, or bulb brightness.  Nor has he shown any OU. So, are we just able to light the LED bulbs by saving a few mAs??? Or just where are we going with all of this?
   It would be good if Itsu or any of us could do some efficiency numbers, as he (or anyone else) that may have all the right gear to test with. Before we spend another month or so, trying to save a few mAs.
   We already know that the oscillator frequency has to be the same as the L3 coil, to obtain any noticeable gain.
I personally have not seen this loop idea produce more light at the bulbs, than just connecting up the leds to a 4v battery, or to the  120v grid, as yet. But, I'm hoping that the Doc will finally come through with a more practical application. One that does not require an expensive SG to light the bulbs. Or only works with LEDs that have an aluminum back plate.
 
   BTW: I just found an one watt led bulb, with the metal backing, as well as a 300v MPSA42 in my electronics junk pile.
So, I'm working on setting that up now.

mikrovolt

Lidmotor, Very good, that is a successful replication. Your new function generator works like a champ.
The output voltage and frequency which design elements contribute to the resonance will encourage more replications.
The loop's usefulness in coming demo showing charging large capacitor may find economical and practical uses.

I use the small USB plug and power bank often always looking for more portability in this battery era also job requirements.

Lidmotor

Thanks all for the feedback on the latest Stiffler Loop experiment.

Gyula---  I will try this on a Slayer Exciter setup and see what happens.  Dr. Stiffler has a theory about what is happening here and hopefully he will explain more in his next videos.  The current does flow around the loop but it not a 'closed loop' like I used to think.  The last description he gave me was sort of a confusing word puzzle picture.  Basically energy does enter the loop but in a strange way.

Nick---I always wanted a 'self-running' device that pulled free energy from somewhere.  So far my work with Dr. Stiffler devices have not given me that result.  So why waste the time?  Why not just connect an LED to a battery and be done with it?  To me it is all about efficiency --and learning something new.  Perhaps we will learn something on these projects that leads to a more efficient light or motor. 

Mikrovolt----  You have been working on Dr. Stiffler stuff a long time and any info is valuable.  The next phase of Doc's Loop experiment will be charging a cap.  I did something similar years ago using a compound triangle array on exciter setups.  It worked fine.  Once I forgot to short out the cap after doing an experiment. The cap quietly charged up laying on the bench while I did something else.  I blew out a bunch of LEDs when I reconnected it later.

erfandl---  I didn't get a chance to work any more on the two crystal oscillator setup.  Perhaps tomorrow.

----Lidmotor

erfandl

Here is my dual SEC Exciter Loop video. the output is very interesting !

https://youtu.be/F3bjYHG1jfg