THE RANT ROOM

[ramset]

Well
there is no one here who is happy with this kind of decision [having to moderate
there are actually very few who even like moderation at all.

It has been many years here that certain fellows make an extra big commitment towards this path of research
we have people globally who will travel to test devices or assist in testing Claims

we have replicators here who will give the ideas or claims which can be replicated their best effort
  recently these men and their integrity was Directly assaulted by a member here ,tearing into the moral
as well as effecting public opinion .

this brings everything we touch here into question ?

   Here there should never be just one members word taken as gospel on a claim[dismissing], there are always multiple eyes and benches working on claims.

Checks and balances .

It is also true that here we have a unique scenario with undefined claims in a recent presented circuit .

this can be problematic.
here I must make a confession ,

For many years I have utilized the mentorship of many of these serious men, I have truly learned to adore some and just be grateful to others !
in the process of doing this I have learned we all have limitations ,here the sciences mix and combine in paths which can be quite unique.

we all need each other [even the perspective of the Zephir]

My confession here is I asked TinselKoala to investigate This circuit, supply pathetically small funds for the work he has done
so far
and day one he posts his initial runup ,barely even test drove it yet ,just showing he built it [he has huge list to investigate ]

and a man who hasn't built the circuit steps out and attacks his efforts as disingenuous and reinforces his deluded claim.. yet again about all the Builders here.[purposely hiding OU

the rest of the story you have seen in the last few weeks...
yeesh
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here we actually have a very good group of men who can replicate and look at claims globally
here we also have access to the scientific establishment for assistance [if need be]

these relationships have been a long time in the making ,seeing the sledgehammer of ignorance attack these
men ...
truly  criminal.

If we can keep terms of service agreement here as the law of the forum?
we can invite many claims and site visits to the menu here.

our attachment to the scientific community enables this [opens many doors]

respect must rule the day here, all claims need facts ,and there should NEVER be lies printed here [especially members].


There is a group hug scheduled for 6 oclock

attendance not mandatory

respectfully
Chet K

[Grumage]

I got quite a few complains about user Zephir
and I removed his moderator status now and put him on moderation and will only let pass
his messages, if there are no flaming statements included...

Sorry to all, I am pretty busy with another project, so I don´t have much time to
read the forum in this moment.

Regards, Stefan. (admin)

Dear Stefan.

No need to apologise, better late than never !!

Now the fires are extinguished we can get back to work.

Cheers Grum.

[scratchrobot]

Terms of service agreement [first paragraph]

Zephir broke this in the first sentence [and just got worse]

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Way overqualified to be Stifled

So in essence topics like:

Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
Ufo propu engine, closed loop
Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
etc..etc....

Violate the terms and should be removed immediately!

Also all that Russian OU Bull and every other post claiming OU.
REMOVE IT because it is very misleading to newcomers who are new to electronics and thinking out of the box.

[ramset]

Basically
This particular incident has absolutely nothing to do with what you just posted here.

false accusations were made against longtime experimenters and replicators here.

and those false accusations [as well as very disruptive behavior]
led to this result.
it you have any questions on terms of service here

read it again.

respectfully
Chet K

[Vortex1]

So in essence topics like:

Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
Ufo propu engine, closed loop
Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
etc..etc....

Violate the terms and should be removed immediately!

Also all that Russian OU Bull and every other post claiming OU.
REMOVE IT because it is very misleading to newcomers who are new to electronics and thinking out of the box.

Maybe the thread need not be removed but can be presented with a more honest title like:

"Attempts at replicating a "claimed" overunity device"

or "Attempts at replicating a "supposedly" overunity device"

"Kapadnaze Cousin Dally unverified free energy"

In this case the initiator of the thread is inviting others  to replicate and test the veracity of the claimant, and the title reader is implicitly  forewarned that it may or may not be a real working as advertised device, and the purpose of the thread is to check out the claims of the claimant by replication or other means.