THE RANT ROOM

[WhatIsIt]

And you don't have to be economic,

FE device will produce every day the same,

who cares how much energy you spent last day?

Tomorrow will have same amount again.


Is it really any economy in question? Only in domain of energy.
We are not talking about others areas of economy!



So, what makes the price really?

Price itself or mobility feature of cheap energy source?

[WhatIsIt]

, I do not get you wrong !
But there is industrial a great difference between " virtual reality : dreaming" and " hard ware "-development for day-by-day use !
And you can not "stretch" a given nominal energy/electricity output :
with a 1 KW generator you get up to 24 KWh per day ,but ever with the 1 KW limit !

Clearly,you can storage surplus energy in accumulators ( hot medium,chemical,flywheel,capacitor,magnet battery)

But all this means extra-costs/weight/risc ,.... !
Your own behaviour related material/energy consume commands the final € or US$/KWh price !

Your little box : Harold Goldbaum his invention with dis-/advantages

We can do this all day.

Why don't you ask Kapanadze on those matters?


I have opinion, yours different. I quit from further discussion. You win!

My intention was not to change your mind. You are great interlocutor.

I just expressed my opinion.


About amount of energy.

If you have 1kW small portable device, size of shoe box, and you know how to made it.

You can parallel as many as you wanna for given power, it is not big deal to do that.

I don't see the point in your words.

And you don't need accumulators at all. Why? What for?

[lancaIV]

Price/cost/value :

the receiving and transforming of unbonded energy to specific useable energetic kind for example heat,mechanical force,electrical force in DC or AC or pulsed DC need specific tools and/or machines with conventional-"abundant"  or special rare mineral elements !
Let us take an example : aluminium

industrial production costs : 1 Euro per Kilogram

But there are conditions( endconsumer/fob factory,gross selling )  :

99% purity ,99,5% purity grade aluminium

foil or coil : thick or thin,  or barr  :

10 Euros up to 30 Euros per Kg



So speaking about metals/materials  there is a great price-spread/amplitude !
If you invest in a machine you get a book-value :
let us assume 10 years life-time/function ( drop-away society device)

Economical this becomes in 10 years amortized + capital tax :
So if I invest in a 1000 Euros Free Energy or OU-generator with 10 years lifetime and 1 KWh electricity delivery per hour this means :
1000 Euros x 0,1 = 100 Euros per year linear amortization + 2,5 % low capital tax = 125 Euros per year

One year has 8766 hours ergo 8766 KWh per year electricity delivery

125 Euros/8766 KWh = each generated KWh costs 1,426 Eurocents = ≤ 2 Cents/KWh

But can I use this 8766 KWh output per year  with 1 KW max per hour ? 1/2,1/3,1/4 ,1/10 the potential  ?

Instead 10 years 20 or 30 years amortization ( like solarcells investments !?)

WhatIT,in economy nothing is lost - over the short time-  linear amortization operates with up to 80 years timeline !


How will you start the electrical ignition start process ?With hand curbe or with battery/capacitor ?

[WhatIsIt]

Price/cost/value :

the receiving and transforming of unbonded energy to specific useable energetic kind for example heat,mechanical force,electrical force in DC or AC or pulsed DC need specific tools and/or machines with conventional-"abundant"  or special rare mineral elements !
Let us take an example : aluminium

industrial production costs : 1 Euro per Kilogram

But there are conditions( endconsumer/fob factory,gross selling )  :
99% purity ,99,5% purity ,foil or coil or barr  : 10 Euros up to 30 Euros per Kg

So speaking abou5 metals there is a great price-spread/amplitude !
If you invest in a machine you get a book-value :
let us assume 10 years life-time/function ( drop-away society device)

Economical this becomes in 10 years amortized + capital tax :
So if I invest in a 1000 Euros Free Energy or OU-generator with 10 years lifetime and 1 KWh electricity delivery per hour this means :
1000 Euros x 0,1 = 100 Euros per year linear amortization + 2,5 % low capital tax = 125 Euros per year

One year has 8766 hours ergo 8766 KWh per year electricity delivery

125 Euros/8766 KWh = each generated KWh costs 1,426 Eurocents

But can I use this 8766 KWh output per year  with 1 KW max per hour ? 1/2,1/3,1/4 ?

Instead 10 years 20 or 30 years amortization ( like solarcells investments !?)

WhatIT,in economy nothing is lost - over the short time-  linear amortization operates with up to 80 years timeline !

Lanca, I just love you because I can not understand you!

Your mind is unique, and that's what drives me to talk to you.

Thanks!

[ramset]

Lanca, a few dollars worth of components and unlimited output..
power anywhere on the planet... regardless it is day or night..deepest ocean tallest mountain.. no storage of any kind required nor attachment to any power source .
"yes" would clean our waste... clean the air ... stop deforestation, bring energy to places which never had it [do to cost ]..give people the opportunity to go to places never before inhabitable ,change deserts into Eden ...no reason to migrate from Barren areas or drought ...power to scrub our atmosphere ...save our oceans...[even chill our polar regions ...manage sea level ...grow crops indoors.. anywhere on planet [vertical hydroponics]
and even take this to other planets and beyond...on and on
not by tomorrow...but maybe next week.
and here we have issues with asking questions and gloating and apparently big Ego [bigger than all above] ??
where is the teacher ??
one real human teacher!! [man or woman [girl] ["Chris" laughing and making fun or girls now too???]] with open source FE will change the world...
and Yes Lanca [below] we can remove the burden to Nature and our planet no chopping burning etc etc
using the power from our Star [Powering the dynamo in our planet]...CLEAN FREE ENERGY UNLIMITED POWER BEYOND OUR ABILITY TO ever USE it....  out destiny [the way it should be...