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THE RANT ROOM

Started by ramset, April 25, 2017, 04:30:05 AM

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NdaClouDzzz

Quote from: Gear on October 06, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
There are huge investments accross the globe,
which will be destroyed with shoe box invention!

Obsolescence Risk https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/obsolescencerisk.asp

EMJunkie

Quote from: AlienGrey on October 06, 2020, 05:08:55 PM
Gear, up set you did I, you must support your company practices they pay your pay queue !

Lets get this in perspective here this site is about harvesting zero point energy, you are about
terminating that hope, and what more childish than name calling  ;D ;D
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Have you been over to PAAR energy conservation yet

They are selling devices apparently.

May I wish them all the best!






I was reading an article today, the term: "Scientific Achievement" was used. Achievement is only possible under a set of very narrow conditions:


Quote

the act of achieving something the achievement of an ambition.


a result gained by effort : accomplishment being honored for her academic achievements a major scientific achievement.

a great or heroic deed.

the quality and quantity of a student's work standardized tests to measure achievement.



The Art of Exploration without Bias! That's why we are So Far Ahead of You Here, AG is also way ahead of most of you here! Very simply, there has been Zero Scientific Achievement here, since Stefan opened this Forum, isn't that a real shame! All the so called experts, and several decades, and Nothing, Nada, Zilch!

Even after those before us: Floyd Sweet, Don Smith, Tariel Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan and many hundreds more!

What could be put in place to make for Progress? What can be done to improve Productivity? What protocols could help the Community? Most importantly, why has this not ever been done?

Light Up The Darkness!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,

   Chris

onepower

Gear
QuoteIf someone find new tech, my job is to investigate and recreate device,
if it is possible, to see does it conflicts with existing patents or rights
of the party I represent.
My job stops with my report.
On the results of my investigation company decide what to do next,
and that part is out of my knowledge.

In all of my cases, inventors were payed or compensated on their terms.

The ones which invented already patented stuff, were not approached,
and if they sell eventualy device to someone,
they usually end up in court, resulting in huge fee and money debt for them.

If I am monster to you, it's ok.

No your not a monster, I didn't understand what you were trying to say. So your a re-inventor, it's cool.

QuoteMost of FE devices are in patents, separated into few,
so nobody can reproduce.
But in court, all few patents together are one complete device and inventor lose every time.
Compartmentalization of FE effects scattered into few or many patents.
But you are smart enough to understand all of this and how it works in real world.

The trick of course, is finding prior art and I have seen very few patents I could not negate. So I would disagree that the inventor would lose in court and the corporations obviously have the most to lose. All I would have to do is dig up the prior art and negate there patents piece by piece at which point it becomes public domain. The real kicker is that a scientific discovery cannot be patented so it was always in the public domain. Thus, I could also challenge any free energy patent and win on those grounds. You see when they didn't disclose the exact process, a discovery, there patent became basically worthless.

QuoteNo one can fight multi trillion!
1. Have as many friends as you can who will know principle.
2. In NDA demand to work for them, which will keep you alive.
3. Give it for free outside mainstream media or forums.
4. Be naive and end up just as many before you.

You are correct and only a fool would try to fight global corporations. However as I implied, if any inventor/scientist gave the technology to mankind as a scientific discovery there is nothing anyone could do. It is not a patent nor is it patentable and once it's out there is no taking it back.

As well, your fear mongering doesn't hold water. Elon Musk is producing a major disruption to not only the fossil fuel vehicle sector but also space propulsion and battery technology. He's disrupting everything and he's still alive so this bogey man thing just doesn't fly in my opinion.

Regards

Gear

Quote from: onepower on October 06, 2020, 07:52:53 PM
Gear
No your not a monster, I didn't understand what you were trying to say. So your a re-inventor, it's cool.

The trick of course, is finding prior art and I have seen very few patents I could not negate. So I would disagree that the inventor would lose in court and the corporations obviously have the most to lose. All I would have to do is dig up the prior art and negate there patents piece by piece at which point it becomes public domain. The real kicker is that a scientific discovery cannot be patented so it was always in the public domain. Thus, I could also challenge any free energy patent and win on those grounds. You see when they didn't disclose the exact process, a discovery, there patent became basically worthless.

You are correct and only a fool would try to fight global corporations. However as I implied, if any inventor/scientist gave the technology to mankind as a scientific discovery there is nothing anyone could do. It is not a patent nor is it patentable and once it's out there is no taking it back.

As well, your fear mongering doesn't hold water. Elon Musk is producing a major disruption to not only the fossil fuel vehicle sector but also space propulsion and battery technology. He's disrupting everything and he's still alive so this bogey man thing just doesn't fly in my opinion.

Regards

Sometimes it hurts to watch your mistakes!

Thank you onepower!
You have potential, try not to be linear.

Best regards!

onepower

Gear
QuoteSometimes it hurts to watch your mistakes!
Thank you onpower!
You have potential, try not to be linear.

I used to do something similar to what your doing however it was a part time gig and I know many people doing the same. Some are chasing smoke and mirrors, some researching patents, some are sent to validate others claims and some doing research and experiments. I have done all of the above over the years and learned many things along the way.

In my opinion the patents are unenforceable because there is never full disclosure however that doesn't mean it couldn't be tied up in court for a decade. That is generally the corporate modus operandi so it's best not to go there.

Regards