THE RANT ROOM

[Floor]

@ Ramset
      very cool !

@ All readers
Most all of us have flamed on a bad day.
Hey its forgivable !
         but
Persecuting some one for a misstatement or just flat out being wrong, doesn't make it
more likely that, that person will be able to come back gracefully from their mistake.
      Does it ?

Rather than derailing a topic (temporarily or not) better to set it aside if possible or take it
to a rant room / dust bin.

It's difficult to have been wrong and accept it.  Were all here learning. 

Its pretty much the rule, that one must have a conceptualization, wright or wrong or there
is no learning. 

Rote learning is not the same as understanding a thing.

Understanding is connections.
Any person will typically arrive at many, incorrect conceptions in relationship to any concept which is new to him.  Those conceptions whether voiced or written or only in the form of thoughts which have  come and gone so quickly as to be almost unnoticed  / unremembered  were wrong.... or we didn't learn any thing.   Yes, no ?

My opinion..

The "teacher" learns more than the student or else its time for the teacher to do something else.

Guess what, this means that the teacher (voiced or unvoiced) is wrong as often as not !  smile..

Else the teacher is not a teacher, not an educator, but is instead a mere  instructor or presenter.

A person and THEIR topic are moving in a direction. Their direction. 

Or else the topic is a brain storming session (fine many times), or a brawl (not so good). 

Brain storming is fun, but those ideas most often don't flower into any thing / manifest / complete.
               Do they.

Get over the idea that all topics are for you to brain storm in or flash your ideas !  Because
this changes a topics direction (some times not good).  Some times a troll tactic (not good).
Some times not intentional (still not good).

This is one good reason to start topic of your own.  Just don't call it a brain storming topic.  If you want good input the topic needs to start from a good seed.  Got one ?

Could be someone else's good idea.  Doesn't matter, it just matters that it interests you. 

      whatever
       peace, out
          floor

[lancaIV]

Partnered Output Coils- Builders Group-Moderated !
#142
           www.mathisfun.com link about " ..... =  .....
   5 sentences below : ....... J/s and J-s are different Units, J-s!=J/s 


EE is complicated,not become confused also !

But more important than this "Stutenbissigkeits"-battle is to (re-)mark/notice the specified formula in basic units application   :




                                   Energy,Work in SI-basic Kg-m² /s² units     times  Js         = /s

                                   Energy,Work in SI-basic Kg-m² /s²  units     times  J/s       = /s³




            Probably by "s,s² and s³ " we will see how specific energy = mc² changed by Tesla to = tc²


                                         energy is not matter and matter is not energy                   

                            energy transforms to matter and matter transforms to energy


                                  specific Lorentz force and Lorentz Transformation

                    Angular Momentum,Spin = descripted as Maxwells equitations independent !

[gyulasun]

Hi Floor,

Thanks for your wise words I basically agree with you.  Indeed "it is difficult to have been wrong and accept it. We are all here learning."   

In the present case someone made a misstatement, others attempted to correct him and he then went to great lengths to confuse
the less  observant readers to think he was correct all the time and the others were wrong. 

And in his confusing posts he did include mocking words for the others.

This attitude is the one that needs drawing widespread attention to, IMHO. 

Thanks, 
Gyula

[onepower]

Floor

Persecuting some one for a misstatement or just flat out being wrong, doesn't make it
more likely that, that person will be able to come back gracefully from their mistake.
Does it ?
Rather than derailing a topic (temporarily or not) better to set it aside if possible or take it
to a rant room / dust bin.
It's difficult to have been wrong and accept it.  Were all here learning.

Nobody is persecuting anyone for being wrong and I think most understand anytime EMJ is criticized in any way he comes unglued and goes all Jekyll and hyde on them. That is the issue here and your trying to victimize the real victims in my opinion ie. gaslighting.

I would also point out that it's not difficult being wrong and accepting it because I do it all the time. I'm actually wrong or not wholly correct on many technical problems and it's super easy to accept it. The question you need to ask yourself is why would someone seem to go to extraordinary lengths to cover up a simple mistake?. To continuously double down, delete posts and belittle or insult others?.

You see when someone points out one of my errors I usually thank them, I don't come unglued and start hurling insults... but that's just me.

Regards

[NickZ]

  There is only one answer to the above post by onepower and Ramset. Guess what that could be...  Even IF, a small circuit can show some small measure of OU, will that really help or change the world? Will that end hunger, will it light peoples homes, will it run their electric cars? NO. Let's be real, Any small solar panel will blow that little circuit out of the water, today, already.
    The reason that we don't have OU, nor a self running device, yet, is because of the harmful potential that a true and powerful OU or self running device would have on the world. Harmful to the powers that be. Because of that we will not own the tech, today, nor tomorrow. Not for Adrian, not for Tariel, not for Bedinni, and not for you as well.    Even if we were to find out just how to do it. Obviously, we are not there yet. Just look at Kapanadze's newest circuits,  are they going to be allowed?  NO, not today. Not until the economic crash that will break down and ruin even the strongest power companies, oil companies, the banking sector, which is already more than broke. You don't believe it?  Oil at minus 27 dollars, in just a short time, is just one example.
   Hang tight guys, we don't have too much longer to wait, until the truth will be known. Shit is now hitting the fan. Great.   We will know what we need to know, when we need to know it. Even if you think that you are ready for it, the world is not.As along with these types of technologies, comes weather control, weapons of mass destructions, etz... and we are NOT ready for all that, as yet. Just look what Tesla could do with a little small box, to bring down a building, a bridge, and much more that he could do, with a little small box in his Pierse Arrow car, almost 100 years ago, using resonance, from the Cosmic Soup.
     NickZ