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THE RANT ROOM

Started by ramset, April 25, 2017, 04:30:05 AM

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lancaIV

bistander,in german language it is common to write Kg for Kilogramm,only in the english language where this expression is at the beginning small written you will find : kg and normally , indicating plural "Kg"-s or "kg"-s

NickZ : u or amu or Dalton or Kg/kg

This are the several terms for electrons their mass ! DEFINED MASS OF ELECTRONS !


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Void

Quote from: NickZ on June 26, 2020, 11:12:32 AM
  Mass of electrons? What science is that?
  Some one has mistaken electrons with "mass". As electrons have no mass.

Hello Nick,

electron mass = 9.10938356 × 10^-31 kilograms
From Wikipedia:
"The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10^−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units.
On the basis of Einstein's principle of mass–energy equivalence, this mass corresponds to a rest energy of 0.511 MeV."



NickZ

   Guys:   I am aware of the current text book explanations, and is why I say what I said. And expected your answers. But, even if only one person gets where I'm coming from, I will feel like I've done something positive and useful, and instrumental to how free energy devices may work. But, of course, You can believe what you want. I totally believe in what Tesla has said, made patents about, and shown working, instead, of Einstein's theories. And, Tesla goes on to mention about the "Cosmic Soup", the Aether, and the harvesting of ambient energy, therefrom. As he would also not agree with current theories, even at this time. Einstein's theories are well studied in school, while Tesla's ideas are not, at all. 
   Do you believe in the Big Bang, as well.  Or,  only just in a part of "science".     NickZ   
   

EMJunkie

Quote from: Void on June 26, 2020, 11:49:41 AM
Hello Nick,

electron mass = 9.10938356 × 10^-31 kilograms
From Wikipedia:
"The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10^−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units.
On the basis of Einstein's principle of mass–energy equivalence, this mass corresponds to a rest energy of 0.511 MeV."



Nice to see you Void! Yes standard Science, all Particles that have Charge, therefore Magnetic Moment, have a Mass.

Question is, does the Copper Coil actually loose that Mass?

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
    Chris Sykes

Floor

That electrons are not particles in the sense that a chip of ice is a
particle of the block from which it was chipped, is... well....  elementary. 

Smile.

One can have an idea and find that future events are predictable by use
of that idea.

The more an idea is of a macro world event (Newtonian) then also, the more
there is predictability of results.

One can have a non moving electron in theory only. 

One can have electrons, the (Newtonian) relative motion (in a parallel vector)
of which is zero.

That kind of motionlessness is possible.
   i.e.
Move a wire coil past a magnet and the electrons in the coil are in motion relative
to the magnet and a voltage develops in the coil.

Move the magnet along with wire coil and the in the same direction and no voltage
develops.
................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as magnetic. That force is
not uniform in all directions around the electron.
That force is di-polar (N S).

This force is described as being a product of a kind of motion of the electro
(as if the electron were spinning upon an axis).  This can be problematic, given that
conventional description of the electron gives it, a diameter / volume / so on, as zero.
Hence quantized values.
..................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as electric (negative charge). 
A given two electrons will repel by this force.
Unlike the magnetic force surrounding an electron, the electric force distributes
uniformly in all directions around the electron (unless it is affected by an external force). 
That electric force decreases with distance, as the inverse of the square of the distance.
......
An electron within an atom has an orbiting motion around the nucleus of that atom.
That motion gives rise to a magnetic force which is related to but also distinctive from
the force arising due to the other two kind of motion (describe above).  It also gives rise to magnetic force.
.......

The mass of an object can be determined by applying a force of known value to that
object and  measuring the change in the object's speed.

Similarly, mas can be determined by observing the change in direction of motion of an
object in response to an applied force.

Electrons behave as if / demonstrate that they have mass !

In reference to the "rest mass" of an electron. 
Does that rest mass arise due to its spin ? 
Is an electron itself, a kind of standing wave ?
If so, a wave within what medium ?
Is that wave a vortex / closed ended and helical ?

What ever....  quantised or other wize, use the description that is best applied to
your approach experimentally and then use the other !

                      Smile
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                              Floor