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THE RANT ROOM

Started by ramset, April 25, 2017, 04:30:05 AM

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Jeg

Quote from: Gear on October 05, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
My area of work is to determine does any new device violate already
existing patents.
That is the line where my work ends.

I do not deal with death of inventors.

If something emerge on new principle, inventor will be approached and paid.
My opinion is that companies pays inventors (that money is pocket change for them) to get informations about to whom else inventor shared invention.
By paying inventor they wash their hands and are not suspects.

After the naive inventor gives them all info they need,
there is only one problem which remains, inventor himself.

There are few ways how it is done.
One is to employ inventor and have him constantly under surveillance,
in which case inventor stays alive.

Second is, they let the inventors sells invention to smaller company,
and then buy whole company together with patent and in that case inventor
is dead weight and danger.

And other methods.

Akula or Adrian are not hidding, you just have to find their graves.

Hi Gear.
So what is your proposal to the few inventors in here? Each one to his own? Sharing anonymously everything in public with the sickest detail for quick replications? Patenting their devices and making their own companies? What do you consider out of your experience as the proper way of doing things in this area?
Regards

onepower

Gear
QuoteMy area of work is to determine does any new device violate already
existing patents.
That is the line where my work ends.
I do not deal with death of inventors.

If something emerge on new principle, inventor will be approached and paid.
My opinion is that companies pays inventors (that money is pocket change for them) to get informations about to whom else inventor shared invention.
By paying inventor they wash their hands and are not suspects.

If I read this correctly, your claiming to be looking for inventors with new technology which you then refer to corporations for your own profit. The corporations then approach the inventor and pay them off for the technology or resort to other less equitable means to suppress it.

QuoteAfter the naive inventor gives them all info they need,
there is only one problem which remains, inventor himself.

There are few ways how it is done.
One is to employ inventor and have him constantly under surveillance,
in which case inventor stays alive.

Second is, they let the inventors sells invention to smaller company,
and then buy whole company together with patent and in that case inventor
is dead weight and danger.

This sounds pretty accurate from my experience and it's nice to hear some honesty for a change. Your dialect sounds Slavic in my opinion, are you acting on behalf of foreign entities then or simply corporations.?.

I would also note there is a third option, the inventor is intelligent enough to understand the game is inherently rigged and refuses to play. As I once put it to a colleague, "your obviously not intelligent enough to understand when I'm telling the truth or not so whom is playing whom?. Did I just give you valid information relating to a technology or was I feeding you bs to see what happens, how would you know the difference?".

There is also the "your a primate" card. It works like this, I explain how they will be dead soon enough but in the process will have sold out there whole family tree who will also be dead for little more than a few shiny trinkets. At which point reality starts to set in and a few start to understand how naïve they have been. Can you imagine, the realization that there actions will ultimately kill everyone they love and hold dear?. I think many try to dismiss it but later on in life the guilt generally results in addiction or suicide so what did they gain?. Intelligence is knowing a losing proposition when we see one.

So the inventors always had the upper hand because they could do nothing and your just as screwed because a non-action is an action in itself, which is kind of ironic isn't it?. The fact will always remain that these corporations do not have the intellectual capacity to move any technology forward and without inventors there little more than used car salesmen. What would the used car salesman sell if nobody invented the car?... nothing.

Regards

Gear

Quote from: onepower on October 06, 2020, 12:50:18 PM
Gear
If I read this correctly, your claiming to be looking for inventors with new technology which you then refer to corporations for your own profit. The corporations then approach the inventor and pay them off for the technology or resort to other less equitable means to suppress it.

This sounds pretty accurate from my experience and it's nice to hear some honesty for a change. Your dialect sounds Slavic in my opinion, are you acting on behalf of foreign entities then or simply corporations.?.

I would also note there is a third option, the inventor is intelligent enough to understand the game is inherently rigged and refuses to play. As I once put it to a colleague, "your obviously not intelligent enough to understand when I'm telling the truth or not so whom is playing whom?. Did I just give you valid information relating to a technology or was I feeding you bs to see what happens?".

There is also the "your a primate" card. It works like this, I explain how they will be dead soon enough but in the process will have sold out there whole family tree who will also be dead for little more than a few shiny trinkets. At which point reality starts to set in and a few start to understand how naïve they have been. Can you imagine, the realization that there actions will ultimately kill everyone they love and hold dear?. I think many dismiss it but later on in life the guilt generally results in addiction or suicide so what did they gain?.

So the inventors always had the upper hand because they could do nothing and your just as screwed because a non-action is an action in itself, which is kind of ironic isn't it?. The fact will always remain that these corporations do not have the intellectual capacity to move any technology forward and without inventors there little more than used car salesmen. What would the used car salesman sell if nobody invented the car?... nothing.

Regards

I am not looking for anybody.
If someone find new tech, my job is to investigate and recreate device,
if it is possible, to see does it conflicts with existing patents or rights
of the party I represent.
My job stops with my report.
On the results of my investigation company decide what to do next,
and that part is out of my knowledge.

In all of my cases, inventors were payed or compensated on their terms.

The ones which invented already patented stuff, were not approached,
and if they sell eventualy device to someone,
they usually end up in court, resulting in huge fee and money debt for them.

If I am monster to you, it's ok.

Most of FE devices are in patents, separated into few,
so nobody can reproduce.
But in court, all few patents together are one complete device and inventor lose every time.
Compartmentalization of FE effects scattered into few or many patents.
But you are smart enough to understand all of this and how it works in real world.

Eventually it will surface. When?
Out of my "need to know".
My job is fairly simple and not connected to any crime acts.




ramset

See
This is Drama that goes with corporations
Patents etc


Patent Application = handing a man a stick to beat you with!


And OP writes hit so hard your great great ancestors thrice removed
Will feel it !


No offense GEAR


I am sincerely hoping to spoil any corporate fun!!


None of us are free
Till everyone of us are free!


Like Air to breathe
Our gift on this planet


And we make a stinky mess for too long


Beautiful Oceans too


Forests harvested to burn


Onepower
Your a farmer
Your social topic here ...yes very important


There is another movie about our soil
And it's job here on planet earth


And trees and plants and our atmosphere


FE will bring much to the planet!!
And it's inhabitants!!


Our Destiny!


Just look up at the Drive mechanism pumping
24/7 !! And it's OPEN Source!!


could we wish for a bigger open source energy monster?


This place is like a big FE playpen waiting to work!!


And we keep choking the air and ruining !!

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Gear

Quote from: ramset on October 06, 2020, 02:53:48 PM
See
This is Drama that goes with corporations
Patents etc


Patent Application = handing a man a stick to beat you with!


And OP writes hit so hard your great great ancestors thrice removed
Will feel it !


No offense GEAR


I am sincerely hoping to spoil any corporate fun!!


None of us are free
Till everyone of us are free!


Like Air to breathe
Our gift on this planet


And we make a stinky mess for too long


Beautiful Oceans too


Forests harvested to burn


Onepower
Your a farmer
Your social topic here ...yes very important


There is another movie about our soil
And it's job here on planet earth


And trees and plants and our atmosphere


FE will bring much to the planet!!
And it's inhabitants!!


Our Destiny!


Just look up at the Drive mechanism pumping
24/7 !! And it's OPEN Source!!


could we wish for a bigger open source energy monster?


This place is like a big FE playpen waiting to work!!


And we keep choking the air and ruining !!

Yes Ramset. It is corporations drama's. Not one corporation.

I know some things, enough to spot what I have to look.
I dont know whole story. "Need to know" principle.

After many years I am tired, because in past I believed that all
that marvelous inventions will be public available.
Now I am doing dull job, without any excitement any more.

It is now on you, younger and smarter to outsmart the money.

Free Energy is most sensitive topic. And is hot potato.

Good luck!