Self-Running Generator powered by Static Electricity

[SameCoin]

Hello all Im a long time reader but as you can see this is my 1st post, I do not have a background in science, physics or EE. What I do have is a mind for creative problem solving and strong desire to find solutions which others might not consider. Perhaps I can contribute in that aspect perhaps not. That aside, I do a great deal of reading and have many many Ideas.

Pleasure to meet you all and I can only hope I can contribute in some way no matter how small.

Now to my reason for posting finally. I have done a considerable amount of reading on the triboelectric effect.
I may be wrong in what i am about to propose but from what i have read and the little i know on this subject, the two largest contributing factors involved in static generation are materials, and then surface area. The best materials I believe are Ebonite and Glass as your componet pieces. So easy enough materials to aquire. Surface area the next this people tend to be very short sighted or to traditional on. Using discs or Tubes. What i have come up with would increase the surface area by orders of magnitude and make the system itself far smaller.

I have other theories as well which may not be on correct but then that falls in an area that I simply do not know enough. I divulge this knowing full well that what I propose might very well be a legitimate system needing only bugs fixed and or optimization, but i do so knowing I myself dont have the means and hopping someone else can use it. We need free power and while Id love to be rich it simply is not that important to me.

Now then what I propose and it is quite simple. A central cylndrical chamber being the glass componet the ebonite componet being powder. Using a votex vacuum chamber the dust is swirled around the chamber, the inner walls are line with glass fibers like hair. This approach would Increase the surface area my orders of magnitude. Now What im about to say may not be correct but I think It may be right someone will have to correct me if i am wrong. In a static effect enough charge must build up before it can bridge the gap, so a built charge with no where to go acts as a road block. With only one path out of a chamber or from a coil for example. The existing power has no where to go till its strong enough to lead the gap. What I am thinking is that in this propsed system, the faster the votex pushes the particals the quicker a charge is going to build hence Impeding the build and movement of further charge. So if you "open" the flood gate so to speak by giving the charge far more leads which it can traverse, in this case numerous copper rods suspended in a radius around the chamber rather than 1 tap. Would you not it theory futher increase surface area by orders of magnitude? This second part is purely theoretical on my part.

I also propose this, this system grows orders again moving from hairs to near mono filiments and near monoatomic powders which are avalible if you have the money to burn. It Increases further, with the inclusion new vortex discoveries, moving away from tubes to cones. This last change wouldnt be order of magnitude but would increase efficiency, say 20%? Thats a guess I dont remember the numbers.

Well I hope these Ideas help someone.

If someone doesnt mind answering a question for me I would appreciate it.
What would be the implications/effects of using a room-temp Superconducting wire in a coil?

[RebeLLz]

muhaaa



N-Machine kabooom!  lol

[Mem]

Hi Mem,

Nice pvc sectorless wimshurst,
Where did you get the plan?
What size discs?

Stefan and Argona,
I didn't mean to mislead you guys the picture that I posted above PVC static electric generator is not mine. I got it from
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/kinseysparks.html So please accept my apologize...

Yesterday over the phone I talk to  Walter Owns in Florida about his static high amp DC generator.
He was very kind and nice. He told me he needs no money for hi's research at this time. (Not that I offered)
he was saying that he is the process of rebuilding the generator after burned out all charging batteries and
coils in his generator burdened out too.

He is a retired electric engeener, makes me wonder why he allowed this to happened?

I asked if he need any help rebuilding the generator. No he had all the help he needs at this time.
-He was too protective of his static DC generator and therefore I didn't even try to ask him
if he would consider sharing with rest of the world.
One hand he needs no money, which was good. But on the other hand he was telling me that 30 companys are interested to buy rights to manufacture his machine, by pay him 2 million dollars each. Anyway I hope he makes it!

I did tell him though, to share exactly how his device works at least with trusted friends and family member just in case!!!
As you know he is 82 yr old. He appeared to be too self confident (little bit like Jo Newman) as thou they got the finall energy solution to the world! Hey while I am telling you this I might is well say that: Once I went to Ohio to see Stan Meyer's Water Fuel demo.

Oh guys I can't tell you how bizarre that was: He was a tall man 6' + appeared to be God loving good Christian. But his ego was more then 60 ft tall he too said over and over again that he indeed had ultimate energy solution for entire earth!

This is a classic self-distraction! You can't receive universal energy solution gift, keep it to yourself! And accept to long live and prosper!
It's for giving that we receive, or else our selfishness "may" consume our fortune! (don't take it personal, this my personal view)

Why! some people get so self concerned. We don't need anymore vanishing of inventions with inventor.
Mem.

[Motorcoach1]

 I must have missed this thread. thank you for shearing Memm. Yes the secrets of life , thats why were here lol. I'm still playing with the Testanika machine at this time. Steve Hartmen I have done the coil thing and the effects are good. About the liquids thing I still studying Schamburgre liquid vortexes, and Albet huser.  I make glass for a liveing and can reproduce the 60 inch glass disks but at this time have no need but if some one needs them get intouch, I heard someone broke a big glass disk and needs a new one but don't know who. my 55cm disk for testing they are made fron solarray mirror pane , the other disks are lexan and plexi (perspex). I can supply different sizes for reasearch. I'm not pluging for cash will send them at cost to real builders that are reasearching not playing I don't have the time . Mike see- Testanika Metherntha thread for my posts thanks again.

[Mem]

<<Hi Mike,
Thanks for the post, it's good to jump start interesting subjects like this again.  So you are a glass maker, that's cool. I din't get to hear that anyone need such as your services. But now that I know I sure let you know, man.

There is nothing wrong with getting paid by what you do! Plus glas making it's not an easy job either.
 
As far as the static generator goes I think best to use plexy glass or even better lexan.
see this: lexan vs plexiglass 5mm test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFudrBqL_Ww

Testatika and Schamburger projects are great, I wish I had time and money to do experiments on them...

Mem.>>