Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)

[Tanju]

Some of my fellow researchers from another Research Forum are having issues loging into this forum.

The below is a copy and paste of questions and concerns they have written to date:

TinselKoala [24|Jun 06:29 PM]:   Luc, please point out to Tanju and everyone else who may care, that once a flywheel is running at a constant speed with no shaft load, the only power it dissipates is that required to overcome bearing friction and windage.

partzman [24|Jun 09:28 PM]:   Luc, my question for Tanju was going to be "What voltage level does the capacitor charged from 'massless current' reach and how does it compare with a normal time constant calc?".



TinselKoala [24|Jun 10:00 PM]:   Further, he says his LEDs are not flickering, and offers the LDR resistance as evidence of equal light output. OK, so let's see a _scope trace_ proving that the LDR is seeing a steady, nonflickering light output from the LED.

TinselKoala [24|Jun 10:35 PM]:   Note what the WIKI says about photoresistor latency and stability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...esistor "unsuitable for sensing rapidly flashing lights" and "unsuitable for applications requiring precise measurement of or sensitivity to light photons"

TinselKoala [24|Jun 10:40 PM]:   However he claims that his filtering capacitors are assuring straight DC power to his LEDs. Why then do they not heat up? This is a real issue that must be resolved by proper measurements.

I agree with TinselKoala I must get a decent Luxmeter somehow. Regarding loaded shaftpower I think I answered  that question in my previous posts.
To patzman; The voltage level at the massless displacement capacitor is slightly less then battery voltage I could achieve max  22 v0lts by playing with my time delays in the arduino sketch. Because it is a step charge operation time constants irrelevant.

[Tanju]

Found some Arduino Lux Sensors if anyone is interested to add to their capabilities of measuring light:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2374313.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xarduino+lux+sensor.TRS0&_nkw=arduino+lux+sensor&_sacat=0

Yes I tried to make one  but they are still using an LDR and you must do all kinds of logaritmic conversion to get a linear LDR or lux output.

[Tanju]

I had a thought : if the current used to light those leds is really that small then it will be interesting to test how much smaller wire diameter is possible to use here without heat damage ?

That is a very interesting thought! I started beleiving that those 21 PowerLEDs  each specified as 20 watt LEDs in the spec only drawing 300 milliampers in total.

[gotoluc]

let me answer your motor question first
Yes it is a dc motor 110 v0lts and can also be used as a generator. And I tried that , but I could not get more than 13 volts with the 200 rpm I have and the bicycle chain ratio I have . Those gears  are two straight gears (no gearbox). In order to use it to charge back my battery I must increase it to more than 26 volts.

Thank you Tanju for the new details and test report.
I'm not surprised the 110 Volt DC Motor at 200 rpm will only deliver 13 volts which is not enough to charge the input batteries. That would of been too easy. However, you can still use it as a mechanical load test to see how much the device is affected by a mechanical load. If you attache a 1 Ohm resistor to the motor and it can sustain 10 vdc across 1 Ohm = 100 Watts as long as the resistor does not overheat which could cause the resistor value to change and affect the power measurement. You can try with higher value resistor like 2 Ohms at 10 vdc = 50 Watts and so on.
These load tests would give you a good idea as to how much power is truly available from the 670 Watts of stored mechanical power in the flywheel you calculated and how much the rpm is affected when the flywheel is loaded.

Now, the pure resistance load test:
I had only 11 Watt stone resistors available so I tested with 3 resistors
100 Ohms Voltage drops to 54 v0lts and the current I measur is the obvious natural 540milliamps. PLUS HEAT
20 OHMs Voltage drops to 30 volts The current is 1.5 Amperes MORE HEAT!
10 Ohms Voltage drops to 24 volts Current 2.4 Amperes MORE! MORE Heat!
Then I went back tomy 3by7 Led array 80 volts 300 milliamps NO HEAT and More and MOre LIGHT!
I am pissed off!

The best result is the 10 Ohm load. If it sustain 24 vdc and maintaining resistor value at 10 Ohms = 57.6 Watts which is a reliable power measurement if the resistor did not overheat and start to increase its resistance.
Did you notice if the 75 Watts of input power was affected when you connected the 10 Ohm load to the output?
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you wrote: Then I went back tomy 3by7 Led array 80 volts 300 milliamps NO HEAT and More and MOre LIGHT!
Are you saying the 21 LED array does not light anymore since you did these resistor load tests?
Thanks for doing these test and sharing your results.
Regards
Luc

[Tanju]

Thank you Tanju for the new details and test report.
I'm not surprised the 110 Volt DC Motor at 200 rpm will only deliver 13 volts which is not enough to charge the input batteries. That would of been too easy. However, you can still use it as a mechanical load test to see how much the device is affected by a mechanical load. If you attache a 1 Ohm resistor to the motor and it can sustain 10 vdc across 1 Ohm = 100 Watts as long as the resistor does not overheat which could cause the resistor value to change and affect the power measurement. You can try with higher value resistor like 2 Ohms at 10 vdc = 50 Watts and so on.
These load tests would give you a good idea as to how much power is truly available from the 670 Watts of stored mechanical power in the flywheel you calculated and how much the rpm is affected when the flywheel is loaded.

The best result is the 10 Ohm load. If it sustain 24 vdc and maintaining resistor value at 10 Ohms = 57.6 Watts which is a reliable power measurement if the resistor did not overheat and start to increase its resistance.
Did you notice if the 75 Watts of input power was affected when you connected the 10 Ohm load to the output?
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you wrote: Then I went back tomy 3by7 Led array 80 volts 300 milliamps NO HEAT and More and MOre LIGHT!
Are you saying the 21 LED array does not light anymore since you did these resistor load tests?
Thanks for doing these test and sharing your results.
Regards
Luc

It should have read;
Then I removed the resistor load and put my 21 LED s back and  I got 80 volts 300 milliamperes and the Previous dazzling brightness and no heat.

10 volts across 1 ohm?   I dont think that motor can deliver 10 amps as generator. Even the thin terminal wires will melt.