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what happens between a teslacoil the battery the incadescent bulb and the ground

Started by woopy, June 29, 2017, 09:35:22 AM

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woopy

Hi TK

Thank's for your advices

I am surprised that this small singing Tesla coil toys which are normally sold to everybody with a 24 volts psu and a cable to connect a sound device, coul be dangerous and could emitt x-ray. But perhaps the bulb is the emitter ?? and without the bulb there is no problem at all.

What i have noticed so far:

When the TC is connected to the 24 volts psu, the bulb is less bright compared to direct connection to battery.

If i put a flat coil on top of the battery and this flat coil is connected to an antenna, the bulb is less bright.

when i put a big heavy battery (connected to nothing but forming a mass) on top of the small powering batteries, the bulb is less bright

so it seems that the less mass or antenna around the battery the better the ground connection light the bulb. It is why i suppose that the wiring around the 24 volts psu make a nice antenna and decrease the effect ??
Voila for todays consideration

Hi Luc

Thank's for the shematics
But as you can see there is a lot to test for better grasping the effect and before going on precise measurement and TK is probably right concerning a direct connection of the scope into the circuit

hope this helps

Laurent.





TeslaScientific

Hello. The circuit is unnecessarily complicated which results in confusion. A Tesla coil, as Tesla designed it, is intended to output the energy from the GROUND end of the coil through the earth, or whatever medium. That's where the coil output is, not the top end. The capacitance terminal is supposed to SUPPRESS radiation and prevent energy from escaping, including suppressing sparks which represent wasted energy.

These circuits have the ground end of the coil connected back into the circuit which is completely the wrong way to go about it if it's intended to operate as an actual Tesla coil, because that's where the load or transmission medium is supposed to go. I would recommend using a simple variable frequency oscillator with an amplifier of whatever power to drive the primary coil. This leaves the secondary completely free to do the job it was intended to do, which is output useful energy via a single wire/terminal at the ground end, and avoids confusion caused by inadvisable circuit configurations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7xSG91YCg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDU5Pe9wr8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k

endlessoceans

Quote from: woopy on June 29, 2017, 09:35:22 AM
Hi everyone



I have no idea of what is going on in this experiment.

So my question to TK and all of you, how can we explain this effect ?

Thank's

Laurent


Hi Laurent

Very easily explainable and replicable.  Firstly 4 Watt load is very small otherwise the filament will not glow.   This is a HF HV circuit.  Which simply equates to a LOT of energy being lost/transmitted through the topload.  So where do you think this energy goes?  By attaching to the ground or the terminal of the battery you are merely completing the circuit and you have a closed circuit again.   
This circuit and coils have minor configuration difference but it behaves much like a joule thief with the same limitations.

You just have to be respectful of the HV HF and dangers for your fingers.  ;D

You can perform same thing at lower more respectful voltage without all the losses.  In fact many of your former experiments you have done this without realising.  Just coming full circle on another configuration. 

Interesting but not OU.   Classical Tesla tech.




woopy

Hi Teslascientific and Endlessoceans

Thank's for input

Youp what is correct ?

Ts    says that in a teslacoil the energy should  go from the ground (bottom) of the coil to the earth or else. And the tophead  cap should be calculated to prevent as much as possible the radiations or losses in order to concentrate a max of power  on the  ground part of the coil.

Eo    says that the energy irradiate from the tophead of the coil all over the place so , by touching the battery terminal with the bulb and main ground, we simply close the circuit. So far i understand  the power should comes from the top of the coil.

Both answers  seems some how contradictory or am i missing something?

Laurent


forest

I think both is correct.Tesla first wanted to send energy via upper strata, then one day he found stationary waves in Earth crust.
For our purpose it is important to avoid both methods ;-)