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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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gyulasun

a.king21,

Sine wave developes from the square wave with which the gate driver or the function 
generator feeds the LC circuit. This is because the LC circuit has got selectivity and allows 
oscillations only at the fundamental frequency of the square wave when they are matched
in frequency.  An LC circuit with  a decent Q factor can only oscillate the best at its fundamental 
frequency that can be calculated from the Thomson formula.   

What was the circuit in the dvd setup from which you took the scope shot? 
If it was from the kit then maybe the LC circuit was not at resonance. 
And across which two components were the scope probes connected?

Would you explain what exactly you mean on a "phase conjugate mirror"?
And you achieve such state by how?
Gyula

AlienGrey

I'm no authority on waveforms and my opinion if probably worth naff all but I would say Itsu has resonance where Mr King does not have enough pulses for resonance as the spikes are probably the c in the circuit charging  and discharging try adding more c or winding up f.

a.king21

Quote from: gyulasun on June 12, 2019, 06:59:13 PM
a.king21,



Would you explain what exactly you mean on a "phase conjugate mirror"?
And you achieve such state by how?
Gyula

Images removed upon request from poster.

SolarLab


F.Y.I.

Impedance matching and the Smith chart – The fundamentals. Tried and true, the Smith chart is still
the basic tool for determining transmission line impedances, reflection co-efficients, Standing Wave Ratios, etc...

https://www.ieee.li/pdf/essay/smith_chart_fundamentals.pdf

Complex Conjugate {mirror?} - example:
"It  is  well  known that  to  get  the maximum power transfer from a source to a load, the  source impedance
must equal the complex conjugate of load impedance, or: Rs+ jXs = RL– jXL.  A Smith Chart works well for
doing just that - flip the inductance (top part of the chart) or capacitance (bottom of the chart) to the "equal
but opposite impedance" on the chart!

RF engineering basic concepts: the Smith chart

https://cds.cern.ch/record/1417989/files/p95.pdf

Your Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) likely has a "Smith Chart" built in [a decendant from the old "Slotted Line" days!]

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With respect to Negative Resistance:

Negative Resistance, in general, is an old term used where, when a network (circuit) was at, or around, resonance
the capacitive side exhibited a positive-resistive effect (positive resistance - taking current away from the network);
near or at the center resonance peak, the network exhibited zero or infinite resistive effect [series or parallel resonance];
and on the inductive side exhibited a negative-resistive effect (negative resistance - providing current into the network).
Many ways of interpreting these network (circuit) effects but thats the essence of it. The higher the network "Q" (quality
factor - lack of circuit resistance) the more pronounced are the effects.

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A bit more on Kron (may be a bit easier to read):

www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/Kron-1945/Kron-PR-1945/Kron-PR1945.htm
http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/index.html

http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Ueberb1.htm
Kron (along with Carter) for the most part were investigating this newly discovered Network Analyzer instrument for
use in analyzing lines with respect to the Schrödinger Equations.
http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/KronGabriel1.htm
G. Kron and G.K. Carter, A.C. network analyzer study of the Schrödinger equation. Phys. Rev. 67, 44 - 49 (1945).
SMITH Chart and the Schrödinger Equation: [The Smith chart and quantum mechanics]
https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.17262
Abstract
The Schrödinger equation and the equation describing the behavior of voltage on a transmission line are both linear
second‐order equations, which may be solved by convenient matrix methods. By drawing analogies between these
two problems, it is shown that a method used for antenna impedance matching based on the Smith chart corresponds
in quantum mechanics to a simple conformal transformation of the logarithmic derivative of the wave function. One
thereby can arrive at an elementary derivation of the Wentzel–Kramers–Brillouin quantization condition.
FIN


itsu

Quote from: a.king21 on June 12, 2019, 05:56:02 PM
Itsu:  Cannot understand why your wave is a sine wave.  I have some screen shots from a dvd with the kit which shows "spike waves at various frequencies - (but using the small coils only). Unless your scope is affecting the wave form.
You have to mess around with the coils to get a phase conjugate mirror as everything affects the overall circuit.  I used 7 small coils plus the big coil. You know when you are there because your gate driver voltage won't move.  You can also use a  Hv fast  bridge rectifier between earth ground and negative of the big coil to help power the gate driver (ie charge the batteries of the gate driver).  And you can use one of the satellite coils to power the frequency generator in the same fashion.
A.king,

i would love to replicate your spiky signal, but i have the impression that you are taking giant steps while
i am taking baby steps.

Your shown scopeshots must be from a different setup, and those tiny (mV / few volts??) signals won't be powereing
much i guess.

Anyway, not sure how to continue now as we seem to be "out of sync".


By the way, the term "Phase conjugate mirror" or "Phase conjugate resonator" was found by me years ago in
Paul LaViolette his book "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion" (pdf here:  https://tinyurl.com/yykwhrdr )

Not sure we are talking about the same thing.

Itsu