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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 28, 2019, 08:26:39 PM
AG,
Ok looking back at that comment I can see this is another case in point that I read it the opposite way than you intended. I thought you were saying JB was saying no grounding. Anyway, the case in point is that you are not taking the time to write clearly. Even in the rest of the statement you made I didn't really understand what you were meaning. We can't be and don't want to be inside your head man!  :o The reason I thought you were speaking against grounding was because of your previous attack against A.King when he just made a small point about grounding. Then you attacked in with a bunch of statements that made no sense. I think you either need to take more time to type a little longer or get some help if you can't see this problem. To say A.king is trolling you also makes no sense. What was that about? You were the one that attacked him for no reason. I just don't get what is going on here.Struth talk about paranoia your both very hard work, read A.kings posts to me ! I don't mention A. king in connection of any earth directly WHATSOEVER  in the context as your suggesting. If you want to profile me your not very good at it. As I said I asked you a question AND you still haven't answered it yet.

As for the question, what do you mean by "in respect to the earth on a scope?" ( the zero line goes below zero assuming EARTH is connected to this line) J Bedini refers to it in the no 7 video when he is scoping the wave form the black odd looking square looking wheel and i think your stood behind him as in a.kings photo ) The scope shot clearly shows a ground Zero line with the impulses going negative as spikes below it.
Not following here what the question is. Difference between positive and negative energy is it just the impulses? The impulse creates a negative experience prior to the current flow at switch turn on and after switch turn off (which is like another switch on as the inductor becomes a source charge itself). The negative is not the spike but the spike is the result after the event(s). Oh, I thought you were referring to the negative probe and connection to the earth/ground. So maybe you were asking about the scope wave going negative? Yes
Hmm it's a worry what I mean by confusion is this >should I be asking this stuff, you had better let me know and I can erase it  8)

AlienGrey

Quote from: a.king21 on June 29, 2019, 12:01:10 AM
Rick:  I've just looked back at AGs posts.  He started in April 2014 and it seems he was very optimistic then.  He then seemed to follow the ususal "gurus" and it would appear AG became thoroughly annoyed by the time wasting and failed replications - and I believe this has led him into confusion.  I think he is testing you because he is disillusioned - (like many others).
Wrong !  I don't get disillusioned I get optimistic  don't read into what i'm not saying I'm merely asking Rick about the impulse it appears to be the key is it going negative below the earth line hundreds of volts ?  or what and whats it's width in micro or nano seconds or does it depend on the frequency relationship ? 
If you don't want to discuss it that's ok, after all that's been said and done.

Many thanks AG

AlienGrey

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 28, 2019, 11:01:44 PM
Not following your point here? Get what? that he copied your page or what the circuit is showing?
It's difficult to comprehend this page for me as it's in dead small print and it's blurry and are the parallel looking resisters actually a pair of coil windings and are the interlocking E block be a battery or a capacitor ?
I needs some work spending on it to bring it up to date me thinks. Anyway thanks for posting the circuit.
AG

AlienGrey

Quote from: rickfriedrich on June 28, 2019, 10:56:18 PM
AG,
Why did you tell us that we may be interested in the Bedini video and then include a disinfo video before it? Both of these are revealing major lies. BS that's a lie in it self  I could equally say your stealing the innocence from the sincerity the links were given to the thread, works both ways! !One that lies about my fan kit and the other is Bedini lying.is he, how would we know that ?  Those are very strong accusations that are insulting and aggressively abusive! any one looking at both circuits would consider they were identical and you keep saying nothing can be proved on here so whats the problem and where do i say as fact what your implying, calm down and relax not every one is out to get you.
you should count your blessings not every one can drink alcohol beverages as you previously suggested  :'(
Is this inclusion of the first video an attempt to try and discredit me? No of course not  it was for your amusement only Your starting the video at 116s shows where the guy is showing the voltage of one coil output of 1-2V. This is normal. This guy is a liar because the circuit does not ever use the coils as generator outputs as that point in the video implies. No one on the forums would even try to say that. Everyone can see a huge spike, but he lies and says it is only 2V output. The output is in relation to the motor action and not a generator action. The electrical impulsing of the coils is what causes the output charging of cap or light or battery. The magnet impulsing of the coils as he shows does not cause the charging, and results only in producing 1-2V. This is what in fact is used to create the trigger coil turn on only. But once the motor starts then the trigger coil in a bifilar arrangement (which is a more advanced option with resulting higher output but more difficult to wind/assemble) becomes a much higher voltage (which is another place where free energy is produced in the circuit--which this video does not do).
The Great Scott guy he is quite a character along with others like that Australian guy who poo poo's zero point energy, but in saying that since you appear to be the be the only guy on here who is prepared to what looks like being prepared to rip things apart and state whats wrong with them whats wrong with letting you rip apart and explain whats wrong with stuff ? It's how we all can learn from you! !

Secondly, the cap being charged in the video is also a lie because the kit capacitor charges up to high voltage very fast. And when we pulse the cap we charge the battery about as fast as the input battery discharges. He doesn't show either a battery running the fan or charging. It is impossible for the capacitor to stay at 1V or less. It goes up past 200V very fast. The cap pulser actually pulses the battery about 1V average above battery voltage.

Of course this disinformation agent correctly calculated that people would just trust what he says without verifying anything. So you can see that 6 times as many people liked his fake news video. And this is what happens right here on this forum and all the forums. This is exactly why I say you cannot prove anything over the internet and with video or pictures. So why would someone do this? They knew they were lying and misleading everyone. What does that tell everyone here? Why would someone go to the trouble to try and deceive 4 million people? So why are you promoting this video that is obviously disinformation? Are you trying to discredit my claim about the fan kits or me because I mentioned it? Instead now people can see this is an obvious disinfo video as at least 7600 people could see there. These attacks are old news. I won these debates the first 2 years of doing this and I answered every question and objection. Eventually the skeptics changed their level of objection and requirements and merely insisted that there be at least 3 times the output. So I showed that with bigger batteries being charged and another form of the third stage process. After that we really didn't find anyone disbelieving these claims because thousands of people all around the world were doing this. And the fan kit was so popular several others took the credit for my kit. One student of mine even sells it in violation of my friendship.

This is what I wrote in his comments: "If you look at my actual instructions on this you will see that you did not connect the wires right. Everyone knows that the output will be at least 300V and the capacitor will charge up to high voltage very fast. The battery will also charge up around the rate of the discharging battery. I have swapped the two batteries around for years. You have not even used batteries. This video is a lie therefore."

This setup in this video, which is misrepresented and purposely not showing it running the way it runs, is one of about 5 common ways. The first was to make two coils motor coils and two trigger coils. This is what Bedini did with the tape motor drive which is similar to the brushless fan motors. This was not a good use of the coils. So at first I made the all four of the coils motor coils and I unwound one coil and rewound it bifilar with a smaller trigger wire with it. It was rather hard to do that. Then I had 4 transistors so that the motor was about the same as original instead of wasting the two coils as trigger coils. This gives the true results of my claims just like the other kits with the trigger coil. The third way was to merely replace one motor coil and make it a trigger coil while you had three motor coils with transistors. With all these ways you have to realize that every other coil is reversed from the ones beside it. The guy in the video did not do the proper coil arrangement. The next way is to use the actual circuit and merely change around the one diode and add two diodes on the collector terminals of the two transistors. These go to the charging battery. Now the motor runs exactly like it always runs but charges a battery also. This doesn't give as good results because the rate of change is slow. So the fifth way is to change out the transistors to one mosfet and add the fast gate driver and use the existing hall (which sometimes needs to be replace as it often is a latching hall). Now the circuit is more efficient and the charging is much better, and more like my dualpole energizers. In all these cases the bigger the battery the more the output over time. You can also do the third stage of the Loving Paths process with this as well.

a.king21

AG the resistor type lines in the Benitez circuit is the way they showed transformers in those days. Also they sometimes meant induction coils and did not show the interrupter which is an automatic mechanical on-off switch similar to the old double bell circuit which used two coils as electromagnets and switched each coil on and off automatically using a mechanical switching mechanism.
The point is you have to read and understand the patent.  It was granted and in those days you had to show a working model.
That is why Rick is going to do a Benitez kit I think.
AG: Just look at Rick's videos and you will get it.  He is the most honest contributor ever.
Negative engineering: Rick means use the spike.
The spike can create a negative resistor.


A negative resistor can be a coil, a battery or a capacitor. Or a combination of RLC circuits. Hence the confusion.
The spike can go negative but it doesn't matter.  Use rectification.
It is called  negative engineering because energy enters the circuit rather than the other way round - as in closed loop systems.
So if you use the spike in combination with resonance in combination with earth grounding Don Smith style you'll get there.
A further point.   Capacitor pulsing and battery pulsing can go ou without input after conditioning.  This means you have to pulse the devices negatively for over 12 hours.  Then the capacitor or battery will self charge fo a time - maybe 5 minutes or so.


I am sure if I have said anything wrong then Rick will correct me.