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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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a.king21

Quote from: AlienGrey on July 03, 2019, 03:59:08 AM
Hi all, there is an other aspect to all this, the psychology aspect of asking validity questions, where the questioner has been accused out right of attacking him, and he will directly repeatedly ask me direct personal identity questions as if it is he who is on some sort of trial. The fact remains if I am interested in buying something I want to know what I am buying.
AG


Rick is not selling anything directly.  He does not give you a sales pitch. His information is free.  It is up to you to build or experiment.  Some people who do not have access to tooling equipment may decide to buy something from Rick or someone else.
So the best thing is to ask  sensible questions without being offensive or rude. You would not behave rudely in person, so why do it here?
Personally Rick has cleared up so many points for me  in the last 6 months that I now have a clear picture of how this technology works. He is the only person in the world who has come clean with this study.
The proof of what I am saying is that when I make some statements about this energy study, I get very few contradictions from Rick.
When I make a mistake he lets everyone know.
So sensible people will take note of that and verify information themselves.

gyulasun


Hi Itsu,

Yes, the picture you mention in member Seaad's post (#890) shows many coils and they surely influence each other.   
But look what Rick wrote about his setup earlier, when he was commenting his own pictures showing about 75 coils
around the big red coil (Seaad's picture came from A.king who took it from Rick's video, shown with some more coils):

Quote
Ideally you would properly space all these coils so that they all become both transmitters and receivers in a
sympathetic relationship with each other in a way like the London bridge that was falling down (haha, no, the London
millennial bridge). Once this is locked into place then we do in fact have what Kron talks about in a different
context, and where you can remove the input as it is self-sustaining. And more than that, you can add loads to the
transmitter and even reverse the input. This usually requires several coils around the transmitter because the
output of the transmitter drops off at the square of the distance so enough has to come back into the transmitter to
accomplish that (considering that you have transmission radiating almost in all directions and usually we are only
placing coil just horizontally around it).
The loads off the 10 bigger coils (one not shown) were bright 3W LED bulbs, and another one was powered below off a
regular coil which isn't seen in the picture. So I had at least 11 of these big LEDs and almost 70 small LEDs
powered. I also added ferrite coils with these bigger bulbs that brought the input power down without lowering the
loads. So for 80ma at 12V that was an okay demonstration. It's the 1 watt challenge.
from https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg535253/#msg535253

And look what he wrote to me yesterday:
Quote
Again, there is nothing wrong with taking Itsu's claims in words and pictures as something to personally consider,
but to assume that you have some correct understand of what he was doing under the circumstances is mere assumption.

So Rick knows better what I understand from your video than I myself do. LOL The many years of our cooperation on this and other forums is enough for making only assumptions.  Go figure.  Now it is my turn:  hahaha

Just keep up your excellent work! 

Gyula

Quote from: itsu on July 02, 2019, 04:05:29 PMGyula,

yes, i would agree that the goal would be to tune all coupled LC circuits to the same resonant frequency,
but looking at the picture in Seaad his post #890, many of those coils are so close they are bound to influence
each other and thus detune each other.

Anyway, the term avalanche is not quite what i mean, so probably wrong here.


Itsu

a.king21

Quote from: gyulasun on July 03, 2019, 09:02:26 AM
Hi Itsu,

Yes, the picture you mention in member Seaad's post (#890) shows many coils and they surely influence each other.   
But look what Rick wrote about his setup earlier, when he was commenting his own pictures showing about 75 coils
around the big red coil (Seaad's picture came from A.king who took it from Rick's video, shown with some more coils):
  from https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg535253/#msg535253

And look what he wrote to me yesterday:

So Rick knows better what I understand from your video than I myself do. LOL The many years of our cooperation on this and other forums is enough for making only assumptions.  Go figure.  Now it is my turn:  hahaha

Just keep up your excellent work! 

Gyula


I have two questions for you.


Does cold electricity exist?
Have you ever built a device which exhibits cold electricity?

rickfriedrich

AG,
You have been playing a lot of games here. You needlessly insulted A.King when he recommended to Itsu to try grounding. Then you denied it. I quoted all the details and you just said "no comment." You are spending a lot time and wasting space here with such games. I appreciate many things you have said even with your attitude and ambiguous words at times. You have mocked me several times directly and indirectly in your questions so who are you trying to kid here? It doesn't bother me AG. You can see that I am always in good humor about it. It only serves to prove my points I have been making here. And all I am trying to do is help people here for free. This conflict ends up benefiting us all as people can now understand these games that are played on the forums while getting the important details on how to do free energy research.
I am not soliciting any sales here. I don't need you to buy anything from me but I will not refuse to sell you something if you want. Nor have I failed to answer anyone's questions. I only sell what people ask for, or rather demand. That started over 25 years ago as a special order ministry where people asked me to republish old classic books. So one thing lead to another and I became a small publisher. 15 years ago I extended that ministry to this research as well. I transcribe books for free, and patents, and make them available for print for those who would rather read them in that format. People demanded that parts be made available, so I did what I could to give them such. Same with the battery chargers. Same with the kits and books. I have not been able to keep up with the demand this year and am having to enlarge operations. I have spent a great deal of time helping you AG, and you are not a customer. I have said so many things to you that you could build such things yourself. It is evident that no matter what I do you seek to mock and pick at me in any way you want. That doesn't bother me and only serves to show everyone what is going on.
Quote from: AlienGrey on July 03, 2019, 03:59:08 AM
Hi all, there is an other aspect to all this, the psychology aspect of asking validity questions, where the questioner has been accused out right of attacking him, and he will directly repeatedly ask me direct personal identity questions as if it is he who is on some sort of trial. The fact remains if I am interested in buying something I want to know what I am buying.
AG

rickfriedrich

G, you know nothing about how to do science obviously. As I said, you selectively assume what you want and reject assuming under the same conditions when you don't want to believe something. This is confirmation bias and everyone can see it. It is reckless and just circle reasoning. I did not say anything presented is useless, but merely that it cannot prove anything to anyone else because we do not know the full circumstance of the claims such as the environment and parts, etc. I am not denying that you guys have conversed over the years, but that still does not prevent mistakes from not being detected. You are just ignoring the conditions of evidence and the nature of real science and what it takes to come to rational conviction. You are just promoting rumors, speculation, confirmation bias and mocking while doing that. Not only are you doing that but you are demonstrating a double standard where you do not consistently accept claims that are given on the same level. So you are picking and choosing when a claim is to be believed with no justifiable reason. Knowing someone merely through a group, or even in person, doesn't mean anything when you are not there to see every detail of what is going on. You have already shown at least one mistake, how can you ever know if there are not more?

As for coils affecting each other. My point again is that they can and the don't effect each other depending on what you are doing. They are always effecting each other but my point is in the basic untuned video and picture there was no decrease in output, so in that way they were not affected. I wasn't being technical but merely talking about the lights not going dimmer when more coils were added. But I did say that they could get dimmer while doing some things that affected the primary. So yes that can happen as well. The point of the demo was to show my customers that you could have a situation where you added about 500 coils around the primary without dimming each load. It was not the ideal setup where each coil would be grounded and properly loaded after frequency reduced, etc.
So each coil is both a receiver and transmitter, and all the other coils will be affected by such transmission (in the lose sense of the term as I only look at is an influencer and not actually transmitting electrons). It is just that the phasing will determine how much the other coils are affected. These are the very sensitive relationships that you learn in the kit. But it is relatively easy to see all the coils not be a combined output of the input so that when you add coils each load on the existing coils does not go down, so that in my example I could have about 500 coils all around. And if properly spaced I could have no input, or negative.

Quote from: gyulasun on July 03, 2019, 09:02:26 AM
Hi Itsu,
Yes, the picture you mention in member Seaad's post (#890) shows many coils and they surely influence each other.   
But look what Rick wrote about his setup earlier, when he was commenting his own pictures showing about 75 coils around the big red coil (Seaad's picture came from A.king who took it from Rick's video, shown with some more coils):
  from https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg535253/#msg535253
"Ideally you would properly space all these coils so that they all become both transmitters and receivers in a sympathetic relationship with each other in a way like the London bridge that was falling down (haha, no, the London millennial bridge). Once this is locked into place then we do in fact have what Kron talks about in a different context, and where you can remove the input as it is self-sustaining. And more than that, you can add loads to the transmitter and even reverse the input. This usually requires several coils around the transmitter because the output of the transmitter drops off at the square of the distance so enough has to come back into the transmitter to accomplish that (considering that you have transmission radiating almost in all directions and usually we are only placing coil just horizontally around it).
The loads off the 10 bigger coils (one not shown) were bright 3W LED bulbs, and another one was powered below off a regular coil which isn't seen in the picture. So I had at least 11 of these big LEDs and almost 70 small LEDs powered. I also added ferrite coils with these bigger bulbs that brought the input power down without lowering the loads. So for 80ma at 12V that was an okay demonstration. It's the 1 watt challenge. "
And look what he wrote to me yesterday:
"Again, there is nothing wrong with taking Itsu's claims in words and pictures as something to personally consider, but to assume that you have some correct understand of what he was doing under the circumstances is mere assumption."

So Rick knows better what I understand from your video than I myself do. LOL The many years of our cooperation on this and other forums is enough for making only assumptions.  Go figure.  Now it is my turn:  hahaha
Just keep up your excellent work! 
Gyula