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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: gyulasun on June 05, 2019, 06:28:08 PM
Hi AlienGrey,

Yes I think he would be the same A.King like you guess.

I need to ask what you mean here on BEMF: is it the voltage spike created across a coil when its current is interrupted?  If yes, then it is okay it can be captured and it can be reused again,  though I have not seen from anyone that the this_way_captured energy provided COP > 1 performance when added to the input energy. 

But after you mentioned BEMF you continued with: "and resonance and above all the protocol" and I wonder how you mean resonance here when you grab the quantity of energy created by switching to get the BEMF ?  If this is how you meant, that is.

I would appreciate if someone would point to the video time where Don Smith shows the (almost instantaneous) rapid capacitor charge: I would like to understand how to benefit from it.

Gyula
https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg534659/#new
Pease note the circuit was designed by Nelson Rocha. and works very well.

itsu

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 12, 2019, 01:31:39 AM
Is this system OU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdrAE_IZ74


TK,

nice demo on VAR and how people can be confused by it.

I tried similar on my big coil to see how much REAL power there is in the tank coil.

I monitor the gate driver input while the big coil is in resonance and unloaded.
The input voltage and current are 3V @ 38.2mA  (see picture) which means 114mW.

The big coil tank circuit measures 242V rms (702Vpp) @ 84.8mA rms (244.6mApp) see screenshot.

So about 80 times higher voltage and 2.2 times higer current, but with a phase shift between V and I of almost 89.8°.


The 89.8° phase shift is the party pooper here as it ruins the apparent 242 x 0.0848 = 20.5W power.

The scope calculates the real power in the tankcircuit to be around 102mW, which is close to the input power (114mW).

I use low voltage (3V) on the gate driver to not damage the current probe while measuring in the HV tank circuit.

Itsu

lancaIV

Itsu ,your example means

(Vpp xApp )/ real power : >  1000 times amplitude

From this expansion- peak how much magnetic force can become explored and gained ?

Magnetic charge

TinselKoala

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 12, 2019, 02:06:22 AM
You have to define what the system is and justify every part of it in relation to your goal. You are making several assumptions here. Obviously your load is very limited. There is not enough detail to understand what you are doing there. You can't determine what the lighting is from the video. But if you are powering only 3 LEDs at 300ma then obviously that is not impressive. Maybe you were just trying to disprove the QEG? Would that even be that hard to do?

I guess I'm wondering your point in bringing up this old video from 3 years back. Are you trying to prove something with this video and all your numbers? I fail to see some of the points being made. One of the things that cannot be determined from such a video is if you are making your setup properly for your goal. And are you suggesting that your load was all that could be run from that? That is implied in the video.
I just asked one question.

But I'm sure the readers here will note that almost everything you say about my demonstration also applies to yours.


Is this system OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzbc-N-e9c





citfta

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 12, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
I just asked one question.

But I'm sure the readers here will note that almost everything you say about my demonstration also applies to yours.


Is this system OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzbc-N-e9c

Exactly!!!   :'(    :(