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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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TinselKoala

QuoteSo far you have shared not one important thing in these hours you jumped in here. Only repeating the same thing over and over.
So I guess I missed the part where YOU "shared" the other things that can be done with the gate driver, like modulating it with the Enable pin and using an E-field antenna or singleturn EM loop to autoresonate instead of fiddling with a function generator, before my post to Itsu. Please post a link!  Or is that within your definition of "not one important thing"?

By the way, I know that Itsu already knew those things! We've been doing this stuff for a lot longer than you seem to think. But maybe other builders might not have known.

And of course it's not important to demonstrate the importance of taking phase into account when measuring real and reactive power in the MicroQEG, nor to demonstrate zero current readings while LEDs shine brilliantly in the TinMan Bifilar device, and it is really unimportant to analyze the Partzman Bifilar Transformer to understand why it gives OU measurements. Nobody is interested in that silly unimportant stuff, while you are showing a room full of LEDs running off a battery and a function generator and claiming it is OU.

Jeg

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 13, 2019, 01:23:42 PM
...The negative series impedance chain only has the bottleneck when limitations I mention when you are doing the untuned basic level that I show with the open parts. Of course when you are doing the ideal ways there would be no bottlenecking as everything would be in perfect balance.

Right now I am experimenting with an un-tuned system and even a thin cable of 15 cm anywhere in between the line bottlenecks the outcome. It also looks like that proper termination plays a significant role. At least to an un-tuned system.         

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 13, 2019, 01:23:42 PM
The thing is that there are many things that can be done and considered. There are 1000 changes or improvements I could make to these motors. There is no end to improving little things here and there.

That is so true. So many things which beg for innovation and improvement. Materials alone is a whole subject.

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 13, 2019, 01:23:42 PM
...But my point is always been to do what is easy and focus on the points that matter.

Thank you :)

Ps. If anyone interests in a quick and dirty measuring technique of input/output energy, then I suggest you the cap-in / cap-out method. Two identical caps one across the input and one across the output. Charge the input cap to any voltage level fits to your application, disconnect your battery, and then switch your device on. Watch by using two voltage meters, the voltage across the two caps. Then use one of the many online energy calculators to see where you are. In my current experiment I charge both of the caps to 24V, I start operation, and when input energy has dissipated, then i compare the numbers. Just that easy.   

rickfriedrich

Void,
I already answered your self-looped reasoning. You just pile the same nonsense over and over. That's the game here, ignore what is said and repeat. Fill the thread up like T with useless words.
If there wasn't anything to what I have said then you guys would not be so interested in trying to drown it out.
You're the one not responding to me at all, and then you say I'm not being straight forward.
The truth is some of you guys really think OU is nonsense and that is what you are ultimately saying here. That is your game.
Self-looping is not a problem. I have done that for 15 years now. But there is a better way where the system is in balance and does not need looping as it is self-running while the loads continue to run.
I do demonstrate this in the real world. You live behind your screen in fantasy land doing nothing useful here.

Yeah, you described yourself perfectly:
"Don't be fooled by bafflegab. Self-looping talks, bafflegab walks... All else is folly. ;)" That's all you do is self-looping talks, circle reasoning. Void of truth.

Quote from: Void on July 14, 2019, 01:58:24 AM
Hi Nick. Have you ever seen any reasonably done self-looped demonstration from Rick?
I suspect the answer is no. If you have not, then why waste your time with his... err... unfounded claims?  I suspect you'll be waiting a very long time if you are expecting any straight forward and reasonable answers from Rick. To be frank, everything he does and says screams pure nonsense. I get that some people just like playing around with circuits whether it is COP > 1 or not, but the truth is if someone really has something unusual they should be able to self-loop it and demonstrate it relatively easily, in most cases. In some cases, some special effort may be required to provide better impedance matching when trying to self loop, or if the COP is not much > 1, then some form of daisy chaining may be required as TK has mentioned. Really though self-looping shouldn't be too difficult to do in most cases.

When a person immediately goes into silly rationalizations and bafflegab and deflections when someone mentions about self-looping, then you can be 99.9999% sure they are just blowing smoke. Rick does this for a business, so that is probably a good part of the reason why he blows so much smoke. He probably assumes he can continue to fool his naive customers and keep the money rolling in just as long as he continues to pile on the bafflegab nonsense. Anyone with even a basic understanding of electronics should see pretty quick that he is talking a lot of nonsense.

Self-looping separates the wheat from the chaff, and there sure is mountains of chaff and lots of lame excuses out there. ;)

I have been really busy for the last while, but I thought I would stop by and see what's happening here lately. As I mentioned in the past I saw a few potentially interesting things in my testing when testing with the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan types of arrangements. If I get some time, maybe in the winter, I will try to dig a little deeper into it. From what I have seen, that approach seems to possibly be a little more potentially promising avenue of experimentation, where most other approaches don't seem to hold water. :D

All the best guys....
Don't be fooled by bafflegab. Self-looping talks, bafflegab walks... All else is folly. ;)

Hoppy

I sense you are tiring Rick. Your posts are getting shorter.  ;) Has the penny dropped yet.  ;D

rickfriedrich

Bla bla bla, you can go back and actually read what has been said, you are not worth wasting any time on. If you want answers then read what has already been said. All you do is repeat your folly over and over again. You jump in here to grab attention and then want people to tell you what is going on. You want people to watch your videos because they are some kind of trick. You are not as important as you make yourself out to be. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 14, 2019, 02:03:44 AM
So I guess I missed the part where YOU "shared" the other things that can be done with the gate driver, like modulating it with the Enable pin and using an E-field antenna or singleturn EM loop to autoresonate instead of fiddling with a function generator, before my post to Itsu. Please post a link!  Or is that within your definition of "not one important thing"?

By the way, I know that Itsu already knew those things! We've been doing this stuff for a lot longer than you seem to think. But maybe other builders might not have known.

And of course it's not important to demonstrate the importance of taking phase into account when measuring real and reactive power in the MicroQEG, nor to demonstrate zero current readings while LEDs shine brilliantly in the TinMan Bifilar device, and it is really unimportant to analyze the Partzman Bifilar Transformer to understand why it gives OU measurements. Nobody is interested in that silly unimportant stuff, while you are showing a room full of LEDs running off a battery and a function generator and claiming it is OU.