Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

[Zeitmaschine]

Void: »The fact that the current meter on the device also read the current loop current rather than the input current on the live phase wire also seems very suspicious.«

I have still a problem with that, therefore an easy question, straight forward: During the demonstration they have connected a bunch of incandescent lamps to one of their devices (see below). Now, if those lamps are powered by the grid due to a ground loop, what should happen when the shorted secondary coil is opened (cut) while the device is running? The lamps stay on, or the lamps go off? An idea?

[Void]

Void: »The fact that the current meter on the device also read the current loop current rather than the input current on the live phase wire also seems very suspicious.«

I have still a problem with that, therefore an easy question, straight forward: During the demonstration they have connected a bunch of incandescent lamps to one of their devices (see below). Now, if those lamps are powered by the grid due to a ground loop, what should happen when the shorted secondary coil is opened (cut) while the device is running? The lamps stay on, or the lamps go off? An idea?

Hi Zeitmaschine. Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally
for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.

Now if Barbosa and Leal could demonstrate in front of independent witnesses that their devices work
in a self looped configuration with no grid connection or battery like Kapanadze has demonstrated, then
they would have more credibility IMO. What they have shown was not very convincing to me at all.
With the excess power that they were claiming to be able to produce, it should have been very simple
for them to create and demonstrate a self looped configuration with no connection to the grid.

All the best...

[Zeitmaschine]

Void: »Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.«

No way to tell? Just in reply #187 it was a ground loop. Strange.

The deeper problem is this: If those lamps are powered by a ground loop then they should stay lit when the closed circuit is cut, because that closed circuit then has nothing to do with the output power of the device. But the patent states about that closed circuit, 2 turns for the generation of electricity and 4 turns to generate heat. And that means they must have done experiments with that closed circuit and therefore they would have noticed that the output power stays the same (due to the ground loop) regardless whether the loop has 2 turns or 4 turns or there is no loop at all. So, there is no way they could have overlooked that ground loop accidentally. And that means they must have faked that presentation deliberately. But this makes no sense either.

Conclusion: If there is a ground loop, then it was deliberately faked.

Explanation?

[Void]

Void: »Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.«

No way to tell? Just in reply #187 it was a ground loop. Strange.
The deeper problem is this: If those lamps are powered by a ground loop then they should stay lit when the closed circuit is cut, because that closed circuit then has nothing to do with the output power of the device. But the patent states about that closed circuit, 2 turns for the generation of electricity and 4 turns to generate heat. And that means they must have done experiments with that closed circuit and therefore they would have noticed that the output power stays the same (due to the ground loop) regardless whether the loop has 2 turns or 4 turns or there is no loop at all. So, there is no way they could have overlooked that ground loop accidentally. And that means they must have faked that presentation deliberately. But this makes no sense either.

Conclusion: If there is a ground loop, then it was deliberately faked.
Explanation?

Hi Zeitmaschine. I wasn't saying I didn't think a ground loop was involved, I was
saying it wasn't known how other things were connected internally so there is no way
to know what should happen when breaking a current loop, as internally it may not
have been wired the way you think it was supposed to be wired. I am not interested in getting
into a long drawn out argument about it because I think that is pointless. If Barbosa and
Leal could demonstrate a self runner in front of independent witnesses who could come
up close and look around for possible hidden wires as Kapanadze has done, then that would
add some credibility to their claims, but what they have shown previously is not very credible to me.
You are welcome to your own views on the matter however. That is my point of view.


All the best...

[Jeg]

Hi zeit.
The last two drawings look like a desperate try from the part of the inventors to hide their real device operation. No spark gaps no high frequencies no caps, nothing that could show something!   

May I ask where did you find the previous circuit with the two transformers?

I already ordered the above mini transformers. 220 to 24V 1.5VA! 2.60 Euros each.

Hi TK
Nice demonstration! Are your Tesla coils sharing the same earth ground?