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Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

Started by Zeitmaschine, December 21, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

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Void

Quote from: Hoppy on January 08, 2018, 06:44:42 AM
There are alternative means of producing AC current at 50/60Hz.

Hi Hoppy. If you or someone can demonstrate how someone can pull power from the grid or similar
at a distance without a direct electrical connection to the hot phase then you might have some basis
for suggesting this, but I doubt you can. I know power can be drawn from the grid through induction
if you are directly under high voltage power lines, but that is clearly not the case. I think
you are really reaching Hoppy. :) If you or someone else are going to suggest some explanation, it
should at least be something that can be shown to be plausible. :)

The story about the island demo indicates it was a fairly remote location and the location
was said to be chosen at random by the investors. If the story is accurate, then it is highly doubtful
that Kapanadze would have been able to prepare some hidden power source in advance. I don't know
if anyone independent of Kapanadze has confirmed the details of that demo however, but the video clip
that was posted by someone to Youtube seems to show that such a demo did occur, although I don't
know for certain that the posted video clip is from the same event, but it seems to at least match the
circumstances of the account of the island demo.

All the best...


Zeitmaschine

Void: »Also, see the following where it seems Barbosa and Leal have acknowledged that their devices were not over unity«

Is that so? And they (Barbosa and Leal) were absolutely unable to figure that out way before filing FIVE PATENTS regarding their device? I would say, that smells. I rather believe that they were forced to back down. Guess by whom.

Piece of advice: If you have a free energy device and you can't make money out of it by selling the device, then the idea would be to establish your own energy company and sell the generated energy without making it public that your generators run for free and need no fuel.

Void


Hoppy

Quote from: Void on January 08, 2018, 09:00:08 AM
Hi Hoppy. If you or someone can demonstrate how someone can pull power from the grid
or similar without a direct electrical connection to the hot phase then you might have some basis
for suggesting this, but I doubt you can. I know power can be drawn from the grid through induction
if you are directly under high voltage power lines, but that is clearly not the case. I think
you are really reaching Hoppy. :) If you or someone else are going to suggest some explanation, it
should at least be something that can be shown to be plausible. :)


Hi Void,

The alternative method I was referring to was the use of a petrol generator or similar. TK's team would have had easy access to one or more of these in his neck of the woods  ;)

Drawing power without direct connection to the grid 'hot' phase is feasible where there exists a sufficient potential difference between grid grounding points but this is most unlikely to be how TK's contraptions were powered. Its more likely that in his garden demos, he made a direct connection to the grid 'hot' phase and returned direct to earth ground, or used a remote located generator.

Void

Quote from: Hoppy on January 08, 2018, 09:47:54 AM
Hi Void,
The alternative method I was referring to was the use of a petrol generator or similar. TK's team would have had easy access to one or more of these in his neck of the woods  ;)
Drawing power without direct connection to the grid 'hot' phase is feasible where there exists a sufficient potential difference between grid grounding points but this is most unlikely to be how TK's contraptions were powered. Its more likely that in his garden demos, he made a direct connection to the grid 'hot' phase and returned direct to earth ground, or used a remote located generator.

Hi Hoppy. In order for someone to see those explanations as plausible, they would
have to ignore a lot of the already established facts and other evidence about Kapanadze's
demonstrations. Sorry, but that all seems quite far fetched to me given what we do know about
several of Kapanadze's different demonstrations.

In the green box demonstration, people were standing right there and participating and checking the wires
when the ground connections were made. Kapanadze was said to have been asked by one of the participants
to specifically create the second independent earth ground using the buried car radiator because they wanted
to make sure that there was nothing fishy with the earth ground connection using the water pipe connection.

In that video Kapanadze's device worked with both the water pipe connection and also worked when connected
to the car radiator earth ground, which the participants there could confirm did not have any tricks because they
saw it being made and connected right in front of them and participated in it. When all the evidence from the
different Kapanadze demonstrations are taken fully into account, it seems to me to stand up pretty well to reasonable
scrutiny. This is why I say that though these various demonstration videos alone may not be taken as concrete proof,
when all the known details are taken into account from the various different demonstrations, it seems to be at least fairly
credible evidence that Kapanadze's devices may possibly really be doing what he claims they do. On the other hand, I have
so far never seen any credible evidence of trickery used by Kapanadze beyond unfounded hearsay and speculation.


All the best...