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Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

Started by Zeitmaschine, December 21, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

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Zeitmaschine

wattsup, you suggest that Kapanadze has experience with mosfets and how to connect them correctly? Then what was first? Kapanadze experimented with mosfet transistors and in doing so he discovered an energy amplifying effect, or he discovered an energy amplifying effect and improved it afterwards by using mosfet transistors?


KAPANADZE'S SHUT DOWN DELAY

During the 2004 demonstration Kapanadze unplugged the inverter while the device was running (see video below). He cut the connection between inverter and device. With approximately one second delay the device and the lamps then shut off, generating a faint humming sound thereby. How can that be explained? If this would have been a hoax, simply switching a relay, then why the delay and why the humming noise and why demonstrating it at all?

If we look at the schematic below (this is the electrons from ground version, instead form ionized air), we see a choke (like in Phobos schematic). Given the assumption that the ionization coil (kind of arc welder transformer) generates the surplus of energy, then it is obvious, that a part of the energy can flow back through that choke into the frequency doubler circuit as soon as the connection to the inverter is cut. Hence that device in itself is a closed loop. But the crucial point here is, since there is no 50Hz input reference frequency any longer, what is the frequency of the device? The resonant frequency doubler circuit resonates at 100Hz, that suggests, that the LCR circuit can keep oscillating for a second even without input power and thereby supplying the anode with high voltage at 100Hz. Question: What is the frequency of the output coil in that case? There is no 50Hz reference any more, so it should be 100Hz according to the anode frequency. But supplying the frequency doubler circuit with 100Hz means, it will double the frequency to 200Hz. Each oscillation cycle would double the frequency. One second (the delay) equals 50 doubling cycles. Doubling 50Hz 50 times results in 56294995342131200Hz. What's wrong here? Is there an error in reasoning?

As long as Kapanadze's lamps keep shining bright, there has to be a current, either AC or DC; that's for sure. The Barbosa-Leal patent states, the captor can also work with DC, thus could it be, the Kapanadze device generates DC for one more second as soon as the inverter - the clock generator - is disconnected? How? Guntis: »we get very powerful magnetic field«. Then could it be, the magnetic field is that much powerful that it needs one second to die away, to collapse? And within that one second it can power 5000 watts of load as well as pushing the frequency doubler circuit still a bit, so it keeps vibrating the DC output creating that noise? Enlightening!

I would suppose, as the observed behavior of Kapanadze's device in the video fits the schematic below, that schematic can't be wrong completely.


POLARIZED OR NOT POLARIZED

Also one more riddle has been solved: What's the difference between a polarized and a non-polarized captor as mentioned in the Barbosa-Leal patent? That expression refers to the load (not the captor). Polarized means, both, load and captor circuits are connected to ground (Kapanadze's device), whereas non-polarized means, the load is potential-free (floating). Therefore, when the load is floating and the mains plug can be turned around at will, there cannot be a ground loop that circumvents the power meter. Phase and neutral are connected to the primary coil, isolated from the secondary's ground connection. Since this is clearly drawn in the patent, Barbosa and Leal must have been aware of this right from the beginning. So, no way they filed five patents and called a press conference because of a stupid measurement error due to a ground loop.

One more question: Why is Kapanadze's device polarized? Because connecting the light bulbs to ground (instead just the captor as necessary) gives the false impression, that the ground current is going through the load? Kapanadze's ground current correlates with the current going through the load. Why, when the ground current does not go directly through the load? That's the next question. 5000 watts divided by 220 volts equals 22.7 amps theoretically; the green box ground current measurement shows 22.3 amps practically. The more amps the load draws, the stronger the magnetic field in the iron core of the transformer (or call it choke), the more electrons are drawn from ground. This has to mean vice versa, if there is no load, then there is (almost) no magnetic field and no current from ground. But why should an ohmic resistance (lamps) parallel to the coil strengthen the magnetic field? And what happens if the load is too low ohmic and thus draws too much current, or even completely shorted? The anode attracts electrons from ground, the magnetic field then captures them in a closed circuit. Those electrons generate a magnetic field in that circuit, thereby reversing Lenz's law. What does that mean? Let's say, the secondary coil of a standard transformer is shorted, then the primary coil draws more current. But here Lenz's law is reversed. So, if the secondary coil of a reversed Lenz's law transformer is shorted, then the primary coil draws less current. Further, since the load here is connected to the primary coil instead to the secondary, there is even one more reversion. If the primary coil of a reversed Lenz's law transformer is shorted (through the load), the secondary coil draws more current, this time from ground not the grid, because of the twofold reversion. All laws of physics seem to be in reverse mode and also is the connection method.

There are pitfalls all over the place. Time to get some planks to cover them.

sm0ky2

The term "polarized capacitor" generally refers to capacitors that are designed to
have terminal designation.
Meaning one leg is always -, the other always +
Non-polarized capacitors can be reversible.
Meaning either leg can be + or -, or even switch back and forth.


This is usually marked on the casing.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

forest

Very good, but there is other explanation possible : what is the role of spark ? It could be the power limiting device.Somehow the excess power is converted into electrostatic form and dumped to ground via spark gap. The interesting part is that even connected to AC mains there is still spark visible,hmm.
But the Guntis remark is the most important one.

wattsup

Quote from: Hoppy on January 08, 2018, 04:33:25 AM
Hi Wottsup,

In an LC circuit, we either have series resonance where the current maximises at the expense of voltage, or parallel resonance where voltage maximises at the expense of current. Neither of them offer an increase in overall output power with respect to the level source power. Looking at it in terms of energy sourced and expended, we just add time to the equation. Are you suggesting that by somehow layering voltage, we can overcome this relationship?

@Happy

Yes I know, it's not easy finding the right analog to explain certain things. I should not have used the word OU first but wanted mostly to explain that the water located at the first point of impact is generally still there at that point and the upwell is conveyed atom to atom going further out and only with this limited ability we see the expanding wave going out and giving us the "illusion" of wave travel.

@Zeitmaschine

Look, straight out you already know that my first instinct is TK faked his green box device with the bearded guy holding the feed line. That is the most logical reasoning and I already proved it above coincidence, but let's just go the extra mile and try to rationalize his device for what it is as far as we can ascertain from the visible evidence, the visible and measured data and let's just give the bearded guy a few days rest.

Oh boy, as for your post there are so many points you cover with terms that take so such for granted that it is difficult to reply plus many I do not have an answer for. Firstly about TK devices, we should not then bring in other inventors devices as this only creates additional factors that may or may not be relevant to TK.

For the delay in the lightbulbs going off. There will always be a delay because from active to inactive you will always have a time factor. The bulb cannot turn off before you open the contact. If the inverter output went directly to the load, we would expect a quick bulb off condition. But that line went to his circuitry device so there may be a ramp down that gives that second more again that would be expected. I would then have to familiarize myself with the total video to give you more answers but I do not think it matters right now.

The observation however is sound and should be taken into consideration, but from my experience in figuring out mysteries, once you have looked and looked and function starts dawning on you and you work that function to see if it correlates with the effects in all the videos and the closer you get to the proper function the more the correlations become obvious. We are not there yet.

The point of my intervention is simple with the Green Box because it is basically the most open one we have seen even though the Green Box was closed, there was enough movements, changes, measurements just in this one event.

Things like when he connected the looping transformer back to the battery so he could remove the battery while it was running he showed a standard step down transformer with secondary rectified so we actually saw one event that showed standard expected coupling ability. So if he needed more coupling ability why is the TK coil made like a copper wire ice cream cone? Why not just use another off the self transformer? We are talking many watts of power here and there is nothing in the TK coil that would justify any such ability to transfer all those watts from one form to another form before it supplies the load.

Then the spark gap is coming from the green box. In other devices the spark gap is in series to the TK coil. So what is he using the TK coil for? The simple observation is the TK coil is a decoy or at best a single conductor of a length of wire that is used to layer on the chopping of HV output from the two mosfets. The TK coil cannot couple thousands of watts of energy. Anyone can find standard 220vac transformers and you will see what is required to coupling that much energy regardless if it is isolated, step up or step down.

If the TK device really works like he shows, it has to do with tricking the output wire with an extra exaggerated form of electrical excitation. I would have to expand on that and just that notion but just that could take weeks to explain because you will not be able to understand it using the Standard EE methods.

But I suggest no one bring in anything from other inventors and just concentrate of the TK devices as they are shown.

OK, let's say that TK only discovered one exceptional effect, but that effect is so straight forward and so powerful that trying to get this in the market without giving out the workings is impossible. What would you do? What would anyone do if they wanted to show the effect without giving it out. You put everything in a green box and dress up the ancillary props to create distractions so people will never be able to figure it out. Why is the TK coil different in most all his devices? Some seem to come out of a science fiction movie. The only common link is it's a simple length of wire dressed up to look like a special coil.

So what we need to do is look at what you cannot hide. You cannot hide the effects, regardless of the device, there has to be one factor that holds all of them together and once you know what it is, it has to then stand up consistently in the other video devices. It also has to be out of the box. It has to be based on the evidence available without trying to dress it up.

This is why the only thing that I can think of is HV chopping. How he discovered it, did he discover it before or after this or that is not important because this again sets you up for more possible errors in how to see and consider the effects.

As far as I know, I have never seen anyone try to chop HV into smaller increments so for me, this automatically becomes a good venue of research because the green box visible components, two mosfets, two toggles, etc., fall into them very well. But for sure I do not have all the answers and right now have not done the research.

What I do know is that 120 volts AC mains cannot be the same thing as 120 volts AC chopped from a 4000 volts rise. The former is always controlled which is one of the great utilitarian attributes of AC. The power rises controlled, descends controlled, rises again controlled and descends again always controlled then starts the next cycle always starting from a controlled point of reference. Controlled is what AC is. I say controlled because there is no chance of free ring down like in DC.

Compare that to a HV source that is chopped into 120 vac increments and what do you have. You now have a power source that is not controlled but extracted from a rise state so there is no controlled anything. It just BECOMES and that kind of power generation I have never seen before so what the effect will be is a good guess but for me a valid enough out of the box while realistic enough line of attack.

Sorry for long post but I am really busy these days so I can usually post replies a few days later when more pages go by.

So the first question and really only out of the box question to ask is can a HV source be chopped down to a lower voltage with mosfets? If some of the EEers could fall into this question I think the results will open new avenues to move forward from there.

So lastly, for me, if TK is real or fake is besides the point. For me, using my own powers of observation to derive anything that can be considered as a new avenue of researching is already a great thing in itself and in all cases, if this ever matured into OU, the only thing I would thank TK for is nothing but him being a pain in the ass. Any advancement from here would be our own mutual advancement and I would give zero credit to TK for that only to say yes, even fake devices could become a catalyst for creative research.

wattsup


Void

@Wattsup amd Hoppy: 
You guys are funny. Wattsup refers to Hoppy as 'Happy' and
Hoppy refers to Wattsup as 'Wottsup'. ;D


P.S. @Everyone: Speculation is not fact. It might be true, but it might be completely false. :)
Coils might be decoys, but they might just as well be essential too. The only way to know if something
works or not is to see if it is working in a test circuit. Bottom line. You can't be sure about anything with these
circuits unless you can prove it with a working test circuit, or unless Kapanadze has a change of heart and 
gives specific details about what is going on in his devices and people can get that to actually work as well.   ;)
Brainstorming is good, but I see a lot of apparent speculation being expressed as if it is demonstrated facts. :)

All the best...