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inertial propulsion with gyroscope

Started by woopy, January 16, 2018, 04:39:01 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: woopy on February 22, 2018, 04:35:33 PM
to conrad

So you had ordered this High precision gyro from England. I tried some time ago and it was out of stock.

Just for info in this video (long and boring at 36'  ) https://youtu.be/sy8znYK8EXg M. Fiala himself shows a device that uses the very same gyro on a small apparatus which is probably described on Fig 47 of the patent.

I have tried this fig 47 device and it works well .

Concerning the 12000 rpm of this gyro , it is not necessary at all. My gyro spin much much lower speed. And remember , the faster they spin the stronger the precession, and if in the precession phase the gyro touches the mechanical (up and down) limitation all the effect is lost, and you get a shaking machine which goes back and forth without horizontal displacement. Not easy at all to get this device running correctly.

I am on a double opposite 45 degres device.

But i fear the MIB, i have looked for a good but cheap bunker at Banggood china but they have not currently. Can you pleeeaaase give me the adress of of your bunker retailor in Austria.

Laurent


Laurent, thank you for the tips, that really helps and encourages me to keep building my own gyroscope. I am looking forward to your future devices and tests. I am a slow builder (a bit lazy), so patience please.


I like Harvey Fiala, great person and he made a great video, not boring at all for me because I like extraordinary personages. There is a little Freud hiding in me. This is also the reason why I hang around in this forum, really non normal people everywhere.


Fig. 47 looks good.


My take on Fiala's device: the higher the rpm of the gyroscope the shorter the way one has to move it along its circular track. I plan now to move the arm which carries the gyroscope with a solenoid only for a few millimeters (only for a few degrees along its circular track), but very fast so that the gyroscope shoots up (precesses) at a steep angle. The circular track (only an imaginary one) is inclined a bit, so that the arm carrying the gyroscope will come back to the original position by itself (by gravity). And of course, eventually one needs a second arm with a gyroscope for balance. May be that is nonsense, but I want to try it.


See, an inertial drive only really works if you can make the force stronger and weaker at will. Strong force  <->  fast short movement of the arm (only a few degrees or millimeters) and high rpm of the gyroscope which causes a very steep precession. Weaker force <-> long slow movement of the arm (up to 180 degrees) and lower rpm of the gyroscope which causes a gentle very low precession (in the Fiala device Fig. 1 or Fig. 2 or Fig. 47 the precession is only 2° to 5°). It also means that you have understood it. (If there is something to understand.)


My motor shield is here, also a little DC motor speed control board.


A reliable bunker builder from Vienna (which has many recommendations from highly placed persons in Austria, I only mention Mr. Short, Mr. FromBell or the ex Mr. Pip, if you get the hint) will contact you shortly. Unfortunately it will not be in the Banggood price range. But with your future YouTube revenue you will be able to afford the best bunker money can buy. And you will need it. Every secret service of the world will want to get to your devices and to the master builder himself making them a reality.[/size]


Greetings, Conrad

woopy

hi all

sorry but i can't wait to show you  this , i( bad video because the transmission system broke and i could not redo a better video, so stay tuned
https://youtu.be/B68hP7d0Ajc

So with a twin and opposite spinning system the  sideward forces can be contained and so  maintaining a forward displacement direction

more details these next days


good night at all

Laurent

sm0ky2

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

Fiala explains that placing a second gyro, 180-degrees
out of phase eliminates the reverse impulse
and provides a more continuous forward inertia


Increasing this to 4 gyros, increases the acceleration
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

conradelektro

Laurent, your latest thingy (videos part 9 and 9.5) is impressive.

I will start with a two gyroscope contraption, but my gyroscopes have not arrived yet. I gave up building my own gyroscope, because I want to spin them up to around 10.000 rpm with a DC motor which is not part of the platform which should move. I will spin up the gyroscopes by holding a DC motor to them (with a rubber wheel) and then they should spin a few minutes. Not very handy but easier to build. On the moving platform will be a power supply for the arduino and the two stepper two motors (rechargeable batteries).

My very old test (more than 10 years ago) moved two dead weights with two stepper motors (which was not a success). Now I want to do about the same with two gyroscopes.
See here for the old test http://overunity.com/17573/inertial-propulsion-with-gyroscope/msg516671/#msg516671 , http://overunity.com/17573/inertial-propulsion-with-gyroscope/msg516626/#msg516626

I attach some photos of parts which I will use.


I want to test whether the gyroscopes have to move freely some part of their movement (along the circular track) or can they (their arms) be "guided" by the stepper motors? It is also interesting how long the circular path has to be for optimal performance?


In Laurent's latest tests (part 9) the gyroscopes move back and forth (not a complete cycle). I suspect that this back and forth movement can be rather short (just a few degrees) than long. An other guess is that the movement should be done as fast as possible.

When the gyroscopes move forth they should precess upwards and on the back movement they should precess downwards. And both movement should be forced by the stepper motor to generate precession (no free movement as in Laurent's machines). But I am most likely wrong, this thing is counter intuitive.

Greetings, Conrad