12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Solomon111]

Dynamic mechanical pendulum system with a lever, is a complex system of forces. Milkovic`s pendulum can not be seen as an isolated reference system, because it is exposed to action variable forces. To system, as input energy, does not only affect the hand that take out the pendulum from equilibrium, but also the very complex nature of gravity.
I must note that gravity, still a great enigma, is varying intensity from the position to the position on the planet. In the calculation of gravitational force enters our planet interactions with other planets and the Sun, which are all in constant motion, so that the vector is constantly changing. And it is necessary to note that the Sun pull the whole solar system at a speed of about 20,000 m / s in the direction to the star Vega in the constellation of Lyra. Such movement of the Solar system gives spiral path to the planets. Also, I did not mention the strong gravity of the Black hole in the Sagittarius constellation, which holds together our spiral galaxy, Milky Way.
The very dynamics of gravity can be viewed as an additional input energy in the system Milkovic`s pendulum.

[Charlie_V]

Without a moving pivot, the lever could not take the energy of the pendulum to provide it to the load.

I think there are two distinct energy inputs that make the output in Milkovic's system.  The first being the non-radiating (for lack of a better term) effect of centripetal force due to gravity (this portion is recoverable when the lever moves down).  The second is the radiating portion which encompasses the frictional loss but also the fact the pivot point moves, damping the pendulum's oscillation.  Between the two, I'm not sure which is the more dominant - I suppose it varies for different setups.  I know the first will become more dominant the less the pivot point moves.  Of course, if it doesn't move at all no useful work is produced.  Centripetal force is what causes the lever to move in the first place.  But the moving pivot re-couples the input with the output so I wonder if feed back would ever be possible?

[Nabo00o]

I believe so, but it remains to be demonstrated. Of course we shouldn't be naive and disregard the fact that no one has as of yet (as we know of) made a real working 2-stage oscillator with a feedback, making it self-sustained. There are some real obstacles here, but I believe it lies in the complexity of the invention and not in its physical workings.

So as such I highly suggest that other designs based on the same principle are tested.
The general principle which marks the 2-stage oscillator is that the relationship between the stored oscillation and the load's opposite, damping force has been reversed. This is not found in the mechanics we are used to, so we can use this as a lead to find other designs which work in the same way.

Julian

[Charlie_V]

You know, everyone tries to load the lever arm.  I bet it would be easier to put a ratchet on the lever's fulcrum and attach a load to the ratchet itself.  Then you could gear the ratchet to get more speed and connect a small electric generator with capacitor storage bank.

Coils could be placed on either side of the pendulum arm with a Reed switch and a magnet on the end of the pendulum.  The generator could charge the capacitor bank, the capacitor bank could give power to the coils to keep the pendulum swinging.  A diode would need to be in the coil circuit though because you want current to flow only one direction (to attract the pendulum upward to its initial starting position but not to flow as the pendulum swings back downward).  Something like that should give auto timing to the pendulum.  You would find out really quick if the system can function in feedback or not. 

[Nabo00o]

You can do it electrically yes, but it involves loosing a lot of power in poor conversion efficiency.
A ratchet system has been brought up before, both because ratchets have an incredibly high efficiency and because it could be used to drive a generator without a crank. Tommy Lee Reed showed a very powerful system some time ago utilizing a ratchet connected to a wheel powered by air pressure. It was almost scary the amount of torque he could foster up with it.

This would at least be the ideal way to generate electricity from the 2-stage oscillator if we wanted.
Both simpler and more efficient, and did I say cheaper?

Julian