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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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dean_mcgowan

I am still mentally trying to calculate how many joules of brain power it would take to keep pushing the pendulum at the "correct moment" to account for a 12:1 overunity efficiency.

It is a real conundrum and a great testimony to the abilities of the human mind to be able to observe and interact with the physical universe in such an efficient manor.

Imagine the computing power it would take to observe the swing of the pendulum and interupt it only when the addition of force would be effective in the positive moment.

wow.. "big blue" stand aside .. chess champion you may be, but that !! .. i would love to see happening real time in a mechanical system .. ;)

Good luck guys :D



dean_mcgowan


supersam

hey dean,

i don't think it takes that many joules of brain power.  all you have to do is keep the damn pendulum swinging and the rest of the system takes care of it's self.  maybe you should use some of those joules of yours investigating that!!!!

lol
sam

konduct

OMFG ITIFIO! You know guys...I've been thinking about the pendulum's method for multiplying kinetic energy.  It is basically building up inertia as gravity pulls on it until it hits the bottom of it's swing.  It's just like dropping a ball straight down except that it "falls" on an incline because of the "string". Then, it "rolls" back up the "ramp" and recycles the energy back into the next swing.  The swing or "ramp" of the pendulum gives it centrifugal force which is obviously different from linear force. A lot of the centrifugal force is lost if not converted into energy or used...it actually works against the pendulum if it is absorbed back into it since the centrifugal force is about 90 degress from the linear motion.

What I believe to be true is this...
     -A linear magnetic motor is like dropping a ball.
     -A magnetic ramp is like a pendulum swinging into a brick wall.
     -Two magnetic ramps in a linear opposing configuration is like a  pendulum by itself, with losses each swing due to the sticky spot and the lack of recycling the excess energy.  The excess is there but the damn machine eats it back up.
     - NOW...Two magnetic ramps in a opposing circular configuration make use of the cetrifugal forces by using them to slide past the sticky point!  The increasing magnetic field decreases equally on the other side of the sticky spot so the excess energy is more than enough to get to the "top" of the next ramp!  I know this is hard without pictures but comparing the fundementals of Mikovic's device with the Mikell Device at http://www.fdp.nu/mikelldevice/thedevice.asp has led me to these conclusions.  I believe the  Mikell device to be the most "honest in description" compared to other inventors claims.  The kid didn't really even understand why it worked because he just explained how he built it. BUT, I have a feeling his Father and Uncle did know why it works!  

Basically...the "free" energy in a magnet motor will not be directly from the magnets' power, but by the amount of centrifugal power the magnetic differences can generate!  Thanks Sam!  I asked myself, "How can a pendulum and lever get past the sticky spot?"  The magnetic ramps are the pendulum and the rotor is the lever.  


Dingus Mungus

I got an idea for detecting when to push the pendulum...
Don't even need a processor. How about a mercury switches?
Only trigger when the pendulum is in down swing and the lever is up or vice versa...

Good luck apriciated but not needed,
~Dingus