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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Dingus Mungus

Where are your sims and experiments Sam?

Like I had said I only found 2 out of 50+ sims that would show any promise at all. Now go download WM2D and do your own sims and see if you can get a moving pendulum to match or out run a stationary pendulum. Only then is the rig useful...

~Dingus

Mahess super chistmas or just buying time...
We'll see for sure soon.

bsrinon

For me, it's finals week at school...I'm scared to fail my exam.

I did download the WM2D. What a cool program! Thanks Dingus. Too bad the demo version can't save the work.  I have to start over every time. :( 

I did several scenarios, including one with a 2 N-s/m damper, and a 1.8m lever with the fulcrum 1/3 from the pendulum on the right. The damper and some springs were placed on the left. The amplitude of the oscillations definately were dampened using a damper as expected. I did not turn on real-world friction/air resistence. Without any springs or dampers on the left side of the lever, the oscillations can become erratic if not properly balanced, but oscillations definately continue forever--agreeing with Newton's three laws of motion. To make it oscillate nicely, the working side must be equal or just slightly heavier than the pendulum side.

I haven't figured out how to place the meters to read dynamic forces on the simulation. Maybe it's only available on the full version. I would like to test it on WM2D if the moving pendulum really does produce tension about 3 times the weight of itself at its equilibrium position.

There's definately some promise to this.

I will play with program some more after the finals are done in a couple days, with screenshots.

By the way, I also looked at the Linnard Griffin patent (pdf) on H2 production using the "galvanic" process. I skimmed through the thread also. Looks interesting. Just a few weeks ago, before becoming interested with this pendulum thing, I had just finished playing around with electrolysis using Frank Roberts immersed cells method. I kind of gave up trying to find any resonant frequency because I couldn't find any using the circuit in the D16.pdf document. I did get some cool HHO production with 10 amps running through the cells...

Brian


Quote from: supersam on December 16, 2006, 12:17:48 PM
hey everyone,

has everyone abondend this project, just because dingus said it COULD BE DONE, according to his sims?  what is wrong with this picture? SCARED SAY SCARED.   the sims even show it can be done.  i am not a firm believer in sims, but they are what they are.  and according to this one it can be done.  so where are the experimenters?  just my stupid question for the day. 

i'll be home for christmas, to get my christmas gift!

lol, and happy holidays to all

sam

Dingus Mungus

@bsrinon

Make sure you have air resistance turned on in the world menu first and foremost. Then to measure anything, select the object to measure then click on the measure menu and select what to measure. Also always use two pendulums that are exact dupes and you will be able to easily measure the fulcrum powering pendulum efficiency. I got a demo here too... I wish I could save and upload these demos for others to play with. I might buy a copy after the holidays are over but right now I'm super stretched... 5 flights in the next 2 weeks. :(

@everyone

The latest simulation I've been tweaking IS exhibiting excess power, but yet again I can not conclude that this is overunity in any way. Though it does at least in my opinion clearly violate the first law of thermodynamics aka conservation of energy. I believe this because I used two identical loaded pendulums to use as baseline comparison units of input energy, and the pendulum powering the fulcrum actually gains energy when compared to the stationary pendulum. Also this rig turned a steel fly wheel in one direction for just over 4 minutes.

If anyone here can truly explain how power is extracted from the fulcrum and power is added to the pendulum they would probably be quite rich already. Hmmm I wonder how one would close the loop though? Tricky business... Gotta hate not linear mechanics!

Screenshots:

fantasyl

Hi to all! First post here, my name is Roberto.

I'm in no way an engineer or a scientist, but I'm really intrigued by the overunity stuff and I'm trying to put my best effort in it.

Howewer.....using WM2D and my own replication of the original Mikovic scheme I found a machine that is never in equilibrium (at least in the simulation).

I receive the very same internal limit error Mingus is receiving, but the strangest thing is that the rotation on the polygon in my case and with my proportion is increasing!!!

Is this overunity ?

From a near equilibrium point the pendulum and the whole machine starts to move and keeps the same oscillation rate for about twenty minutes, and then the rotation of the fulcrum INCREASE of one (VERY LITTLE) step and remains costant for about 5 minutes, then the program gives me an "internal limit reached" error.....

I start to feel really excited because I heard many times that an overunity machine should "power on" by itself....maybe I'm just a fool, but please help me to make some light.

I attach the images of the simulation and the enlarged graph of the motion of the polygon........please note the increase in rotation is VERY LITTLE, but it's there  :o!

Please don't be rude as I registered on the board, but I feel I'm the most ignorant person around here, probably  :-[

And my work is a slight modified COPY/CLONE of Mikovic, so credit to him!

stonrman401

Hello all.

Steorn, the company that claims they have working free energy devices, hosted a party in which forum members were invited to.

At the party was a steorn "toy" demonstrating free energy, according to the members.

They have all come together with pictures, and I noticed on a few of them, pendulums are actually part of the device! Do you guys think this is related? Have a look for yourself, Im sure someone here can connect this...

http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=31741&page=1

Also, apparently steorn (who has said they will stay away from the forum to do work) DELETED a thread and BANNED a member when apparently they got "too close" to figuring it out. Steorn lost a LOT of support when they did this, because it's obvious by now theyre fools drunk and bent on getting money. Though I know I wont buy a damn thing because everyone here will be replicating it soon! Steorn will make pennies, then flop over and their forum will destroy them from the inside out. Theyre making bad moves and really should have just shared with the public a long time ago.

I hope some of you can make sense of these pictures. Im off for now.