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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Quote from: Omnibus on February 08, 2011, 12:12:20 AM
To be notice once again -- the video shows that a weight attached to the periphery cannot carry through even one full turn.
Yes it can - ofcourse it can!

On the other hand, the weight attached to a one-way clutch causes two full turns in addition to a third incomplete one.
Ofcourse! What are the mysterious about this? The weight follows a circular path after it has spent the potential energy found in delta H. Thats why the wheel are allowed to continue untill friction stops it.

.... Like I said, if he wants to really prove that that's trivial he has to present quantitative derivations (which are obviously over his head).
Projection!! There is no need for quantitative proof. Your request are present one and only to win the discussion.

Mind you also, that no matter what arguments fletcher would attempt the undeniable truth remains -- violation of CoE is contained in the very essence of theoretical mechanics -- the Hamilton's equations  -- as I have already shown. Watch carefully -- fletcher can only curse and use ad hominem but will not be able to present a cogent argument against my claim.
This is a lie. Whatch your mouth buddy.

The wheel does not violate CoE, no matter what you reply.


Omnibus

In both cases (weight attached directly to the rim and weight attached to the rim through a lever secured to the disc by a one-way clutch bearing) the start is at 12 o'clock and the end is at 6 o'clock. The difference is that in the first case (weight attached directly to rim) the disc doesn't make even one full turn while in the second case (weight attached through lever to rim) the disc makes two full turns plus over 3/4 of another, third turn. If we consider that in the first case CoE is obeyed then the second case demonstrates obvious violation of CoE and production of excess energy due to the peculiar construction -- restricted double pendulum. It is curious that the Karra Green Energy machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcz4G-kRRXg) and other perpetuum mobiles such as that of Orffireus use quite similar restricted double pendulums as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENrMwPNt9Cc&feature=player_embedded# . This important OU idea should be studied very carefully.

Omnibus

Anybody can make an experiment and see that when weight is attached to rim the disc wil never make more than part of a full turn. You may try it with any diameter disc and any weight. With the restricted double pendulum things change drastically -- the disc ( starting from rest) makes not only one but two full turns plus another over 3/4 third turn. This is a direct proof that the restricted double pendulum disc is an OU machine. The problem now is how to harness the OU produced for the purposes of continuous spin which is a purely technical problem. It appears this problem has been solved in devices such as Karra Green Energy machine. Very very interesting.

By the way Veljko Milkovic has been talking for years about the OU properties of double pendulums. I've heard Reidar Finsrud also talking a lot about these chaotic pendulums. And we see now some people like Mikhail Dmitriyev are catching up. This is an old idea, as far back as Orrfyreus' times and it has probably been around in the form of working perpetuum mobiles but has been suppressed.

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Quote from: Omnibus on February 08, 2011, 04:17:48 AM
In both cases (weight attached directly to the rim and weight attached to the rim through a lever secured to the disc by a one-way clutch bearing) the start is at 12 o'clock and the end is at 6 o'clock. The difference is that in the first case (weight attached directly to rim) the disc doesn't make even one full turn while in the second case (weight attached through lever to rim) the disc makes two full turns plus over 3/4 of another, third turn. If we consider that in the first case CoE is obeyed then the second case demonstrates obvious violation of CoE and production of excess energy due to the peculiar construction -- restricted double pendulum. It is curious that the Karra Green Energy machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcz4G-kRRXg) and other perpetuum mobiles such as that of Orffireus use quite similar restricted double pendulums as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENrMwPNt9Cc&feature=player_embedded# . This important OU idea should be studied very carefully.
The weight are only placed on the end of the lever in order to apply initial torque into the system. There is no weight placed on the rim other than the weight of the bearing and the lever arm itself - these weights are of no interest.
The weight starts little over 12 o'clock. At the bottom 6 o'clock, the weight has lost altitude equal to the diameter of the rim + deltaH, and the torque are now zero untill the wheel stops. How many rounds it takes isn't interesting. DeltaH are applied by the hand in advance to provide initial torque. The sum of input energy and output energy (in any form) are trivial. No violation of CoE.

Regarding the other video (from '92?), I have no knowledge to this design, to make up my mind about it, nor discuss it.

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