12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

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Two Stage Oscillator Simplified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IvsFcyViUI

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Two Stage Oscillator Simplified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IvsFcyViUI

Please see my two recent notes on youtube (from jallaguri).

I can summarize here:
The pendulum is only using energy to move MASS up and down. Mass will suffer from inertia which allways apply forces that is counteracting the pendulum. The less the mass is, the less energy is required to run the pendulum.
However, load through friction of any kind, pure energy, has no mass at all. So if you keep the mass in the "piston" down to an absolute minimum, a light weight aluminum coil, you will possibly be able to produce excess energy - WITHOUT violating thermodynamic laws.

Because the coil is very light, it can still be located within a strong magnetic field that consists of heavy duty magnets, like a loudspeaker driver. Since the magnets are fixed, and do not move, you have only the light coil that travels up and down. This coil should be able to produce more energy than it takes to lift the weight of the coil itself. If you load the coil, the distance it travels will also go down, but it will still require the same amount of input energy to run the pendulum. Heavier pendulums does not require more energy to sustain, so then you can increase the stroke of the coil - without adding energy to sustain the pendulum.

A similar design with a rotating disc that is out of balance, could replace the pendulum. Just make sure you only have vertical movement of the coil. With a rotating disc, you can just increase RPM, and keep the design smaller. However, you cannot harness energy from rotation itself - ONLY the vertical viberations. These viberations is perpendicular to rotation, and should not affect the energy to maintain rotation.

EDIT: I'm not sure if the rotating disc will have the same effect as the pendulum - I have a feeling it should.

I think you got something here!

Again, good luck!

Vidar

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I tested this setup in a similar way using a rubberband attached to a cotton thread. As weight I used a donut speaker magnet.

The rubber band clearly stretches out when the weight reach the bottom. However, the pendulum loose a great deal of kinetic energy when bouncing like this. I think the reason is the rubber band isn't acting like a spring. The losses are high, so when the weight increase the radius, the counter Coriolis force isn't compensated after the weight has passed the bottom.

I can clearly see that the rubber band is a bad choice of "spring load". It looses its ability to fully recover right away after it has been fully streched, and that will cause the weight to follow a path which is not perfect.

I compared with an unstretchable thread, and then the pendulum continued to swing for much longer.

I will try with a metal spring next time.

To be continued.

Vidar

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I did some test with a steel blade spring, actually three layers of them.

There is some friction between the blades which prevent the springs to work perfectly, but the result is much more promising.

I used an angle as reference point from where the pendulum dropped. And second reference with smaller angle. I measured the time for the pendulum to reach the second narrower angle.

Length of the pendulum: 200mm + ring magnet.
Magnet weight: 750g
Cycle time: 1s (regardless of situation)
Average deflecting of the spring: 5mm peak to peak
Average swing distance: 250mm (Started at 400mm, ended at 100mm
Start angle 60 degrees (initial swing angle approx 120 degrees)
Finish swing angle approx 30 degrees

I repeated the experiment 3 times in each two modes. The modes is 1. Spring loaded, and 2. Fixed.

Fixed pendulum: Average swing time was about 4 minutes, or 240 cycles.
Spring loaded pendulum: Average swing time was about 3.5 minutes, or 210 cycles.


Taking the non-perfect spring assambly into account I would probably get closeer to 4 minutes in spring loaded mode.

I will not yet assume it would be possible to harness excess energy from the bounce in spring loaded mode, but sings of it points in that direction.

I will do more test with even more ideal springs.

Vidar

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pumping a swing PT.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTbeawIkDeo