12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[allcanadian]

@ a19grey
Your rationalization of the pendulum system is quite good and very conventional, but incorrect.
Here is why, you have delegated all working forces to the bottom of the pendulum stroke where gravitational forces and centrifugal forces combine, what if 99% of the pendulum stroke was conservative and did no work in the system? what then?
We know all about pendulums don't we? We know and can predict what a pendulum will do when attached to a lever, any grade school student can do this- nothing new here.
The question you have not asked is what happens when all accelerations on the pendulum have stopped at the top of each stroke? The system does not produce work from the forces developed during 99% of the pendulum swing, but from a very small window when a mass (pendulum)becomes massless in the system.
As well most everyone has assumed the hammer side must move a substantial amount of distance, what if the hammer side moved only 1/8 inch, and only when the pendulum became massless in the system during 1% of it's stoke.
If you really want to understand this concept stop asking how this relates to known systems? and start asking how it is different.
And why, like wesley Gary, did it take Milkovic years to perfect a seemingly simple machine, which you have supposedly mastered in one afternoon?
Let's apply some more logic here, which is more likely?
-That Milkovic has worked years and has multiple patents on a technology that you and anyone can disprove in a matter of hours.
OR - you have missed something.
This put's things in perspective I think

[supersam]

hey grey,

have you taken into consideration the whip action of the lever moving up and down?  apparently not!  if that action is not enough for you to get to the most efficient machine you have ever seen then hang another pendulum off the bottom of the first pendulum and see what happens.  i bet you get her a swinging then.  i think you must be out of your mind with math if you can't see it then.

lol
sam

[supersam]

hey grey,

ask an astronaunt, gravity doesn't work with standard mathmatics!! just try it and see, the light!!!!

lol
sam

[supersam]

hmmm!

what do you think about that tri occilator now?  whappaw!

lol
sam

[a19grey]

@allcanadian
Yes, I did make an oversimplification by only referring to the pendulum when it was at the bottom of its swing. However, this does not invalidate what I?ve said.  Any time the downward force from the pendulum is greater than the net downward force on the right (hammer side) the hammer moves up.  This would happen for some range of the pendulum?s swing around the bottom point.  The hammer falls whenever the pendulum is outside this range because the downward force from the pendulum is less than the downward force from the hammer side.  Without knowing the exact weights, lengths, and speed of the pendulum in the example, this range of angles can?t be determined exactly.

So, the hammer moves for more than 1% of the stroke. It accelerates any time there is a net force on the right side which happens at all times except for the instant that the force from the pendulum exactly cancels the force from the right side of the lever/hammer.  Therefore, the pendulum does work (through the raising and lowering of the hammer) throughout its motion.  Of course, the net difference in the work is 0 since when the hammer is raising, the pendulum does positive work, and when the hammer is lowering the pendulum does negative work.  This isn?t conservative work though since there is (as always) that damned friction at play.       

Also, at the top of its swing, the pendulum DOES have accelerations on it.  In fact, the acceleration on the pendulum is greatest at the top of its swing, and least at the bottom of it?s swing.  This is because the acceleration on the pendulum is the difference between the z-component (straight up and down direction) of the centripetal force and the force of gravity.  When the pendulum is at the top of it?s swing, the centripetal force is the most out-of-line with the directly downward force of gravity and thus there is the highest acceleration at this point.  The reason the pendulum seems to ?hang? there as if it were massless is that at the top of its swing, for exactly an instant, the pendulum has zero velocity.  If, in fact, at the top of it?s swing there was no acceleration (and it?s clear since it changes direction that it has no velocity at this point) then the pendulum would hang at that point forever.  It would have no velocity, nor any acceleration, therefore it wouldn?t move.

Also, in my first post I made the point that the key to understanding this system is that the hammer does move such a short distance compared to the distance over which the pendulum moves.

@supersam
Please excuse me, but I?m afraid I don?t understand what exactly you mean by the ?whip action? of the lever.  That said, I would admit that this is an extremely efficient and possibly useful machine. I just don?t believe it is overunity.
Also, I?m not sure what you mean by the statement that gravity does not work with standard mathematics.  One, I would note that standard mathematics was sufficient to get the astronauts into space. Secondly, note that I didn?t actually use any mathematics, standard or otherwise, in any of my explanations of this system.