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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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cristache

I saw that.
Can you calculate the lifting force based on motor torque and distance to the lifted weight?
That would explain the force being able to lift the weight.
Energy wise I don't see where the gain is.
I can lift 10kg by spending energy and by letting the weight go down from where I lifted it, I will get back that energy.


MoRo

Quote from: cristache on October 10, 2012, 11:30:38 PM
I saw that.
Can you calculate the lifting force based on motor torque and distance to the lifted weight?
That would explain the force being able to lift the weight.
Energy wise I don't see where the gain is.
I can lift 10kg by spending energy and by letting the weight go down from where I lifted it, I will get back that energy.

This video has nothing to do with lifting. Maybe you need to look again.

cristache

Oh my bad!

It is easy for this to calculate.
You have the motor rpm and torque, you can calculate the power and energy spend per one rotation
On the weights side you have the friction forces and the distance traveled which multiplied gives the mechanical work.
Then you can compare the 2

Aemilius

cristache "Did you make any calculations in regards to energy, initial/final in different stages of your mechanism?
Did these calculations show extra energy gained by the system?"


Not yet.... but I have a procedure.

There's one thing I can assure you of.... it will have nothing to do with flashlights! I'm going to great lengths now (and will be for some time to come) to illustrate stage by stage in that blog (http://thecolemechanism.blogspot.com/) exactly what's happening with my mechanism. Eventually blueprints will be included too. I can't imagine going to all that trouble and then somehow coming to the conclusion that resorting to the use flashlights was any kind of reliable standard of measurement.... I need hard data.

With reference to the developing ongoing analysis at the blog I think anyone can see that if a particular weight is assigned to a particular length of arrow, simple vector analysis is perfectly appropriate for calculating the values. Using this system, all the various forces coming to bear on all the various parts, degree by degree, separately or in combination, at any point around three hundred and sixty degrees can be foretold with a reasonable degree of certainty.... I'm working that out now.


Grk

Hi,
I came across very interesting thing on the site of Veljko Milkovic.
Firstly, I saw a verified document that states that oscillations are superior than rotation. http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Conclusion_Serbian_Academy_of_Inventors_and_Scientists_Veljko_Milkovic.pdf

And, another thing that catch my eye is Press with a pendulum and magnets, also called Magnetic-gravity hybrid because it combines gravity force, centrifugal force and magnets.  Device is the same size as Two-stage oscillator, but it has additional permanent magnets in pendulum. Makes large density of energy, and has a wide range for potential use (pumps, compressors, power generators, etc.).