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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

Quote from: norman6538 on January 31, 2015, 09:35:58 AM
Here is the Chan wheel clincher test...

I propose the following simple chan wheel test.
See the attached photo which has the following
1. a wheel on the right with a washer weight at the top
2. a string attached to that wheel than can input power
   to pull the wheel off of the noon position where it will rotate
3. 3 washers on that string down on the right with a cardboard
stop underneath so that we only power the wheel from noon
to 2 oclock and the washers stop pulling but the wheel continues to rotate
4. a pivot in the middle
5. enough weight on the left to balance the wheel on the right - see the large washers
6. a little extra weight on the left to be lifted by the chan wheel "yank down" force.

the input work calculation from 3 above = weight x distance
and the output work calculation is from 6 above  = weight x distance.

I suggest that the work in be enough to get the wheel to rotate once fully
back up to noon and then you will get two chan wheel "yank down" forces
to measure.

If the chan wheel can pass this simple OU test by numerous testers then we have a
winner. If not then the keyboarders win.

My test results had very poor results. I don't think my washer has enough mass to
get it rotating fast enough. I will do more tests before I post them.

Norman

Dear norman6538,

Your experiment missed the application of the lead-out energy and the exact time when gravitational energy is brought into the system.

1.  Let us assume that the weight on the LHS is so heavy that the Chan Wheel cannot lift it.  The Chan Wheel can still rotate.  If the unbalanced washer is put at noon position, the wheel will rotate back to less than the noon position and stop.  This is the simple potential energy converting to kinetic energy situation.

2.  If the weight on the LHS is reduced so that the Chan wheel can lift it.  The question then becomes - will the rotational speed (or swing amplitude) decrease on lifting the weight?  If the amplitude decreases significantly, energy is probably transferred from the rotating wheel to lifting the weight.

3.  In the Raymond Head video with massive construction, the finger movement can lift the weight with no significant decrease in swing amplitude.  That indicates the bringing-in of gravitational energy.

4.  In the pulled pendulum case, mathematics proved that the energy is brought-in at the pulling stage - not the swing stage.  In the Milkovic 2SO case, the energy is brought-in at the lever movement stage.

5.  If you compare the finger swing energy and the wieght lifting energy, you will find that the weight lifting energy is much higher than the swing energy.  However, that is not the true comparison of Input verse Output energy.  Much of the weight lifting energy is used to bring the system back to its original position.  However, some will be brought-in to do the lever motion.

Thus your experiment in itself would not be conclusive.  One can always argue that the frictional force is so high that it invalidates any result.  When the Chan Wheel rotates at signicant speeds, the ratio of friction loss to energy brought-in is greatly reduced.  One can then see the effect.

The more conclusive experiment is the Skinner device where much more gravitational energy is brought-in to do useful work.  Other experiments include using the Unbalanced Wheel in the Peru, Chas Campbell, Tong and Ting Wheels or the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier etc.

Morality Point:

1.  Let Milkovic and team improve their results with the Unbalanced Wheel or Unbalanced Cylinder.

2.  Let the Peru and Chas Campbell teams improve their results with the Unbalanced Cylinder.

3.  Let the Skinner teams reproduce a working model.

4.  Let the Tsinghua University team improve the Energy Multiplier (may still be State Secret).

5.  We shall continue to work on the Yuen Wheel to see if we can do the Bessler Wheel effect.  We already have the set up.

6.  Encourage other researchers to examine the lead-out energy theory and use that to lead-out magnetic or electromagnetic energies.  Tell them the road block has been removed.

7.  Have the QEG teams put on Unbalanced Wheels or Cylnders to get new resonance.  The extra gravitational energy may help them to achieve OU and self loop.

Do not try to do all the work ourselves...  The Divine Wine is for all to share.

I am happy to go to my grave with the Lead-out Energy Theory and have an Unbalanced Cylinder as my coffin.  ;)
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Why would a Government keep lead-out energy devices such as the 225HP Pulse Motor a state secret?

Military Applications.

If a Nation has planes, tanks, submarines that require no fuel???
If their Laser Guns can fire forever???

The Military will try to keep the "secret" as long as possible.

But can they keep the secret forever with the Internet allowing any individual to announce his findings???

How can they prevent someone put a lead weight on a bicycle wheel and produce an Unbalanced Wheel?  How can they prevent someone put that unbalanced wheel on the shaft of an electric motor and get the Peru or Chas Campbell effects?  How can they prevent someone use unbalanced cylinders and save thousands in their electricity bills in their factories?

The oil rich nations must have seen or even possess working lead-out energy devices.  Is that why they are willing to sell their oil at low prices before the lead-out energy devices make it to the market???
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/LTseung.pdf

Patrick Kelly put much of my information in the above file in 2007.

A picture of the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier was shown.  The setup is for the whole factory - not just one machine.

Thanks to the Internet and the diligent work from people like Patrick Kelly.  The information will not die with the passing away of a few inventors...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Is there a minimum size and weight before an Unbalanced Wheel Experiment becomes practical?

The "jumping" effect of the Unbalance Wheel depends on the Centrifugal force which is given by the formula
F = (M x V x V)/R

where F = Centrifugal Force, M = Mass, V = Velocity and R = Radius

The better way is to use the other form of this force:
F = M x R x w x w  Where w is the angular velocity

(This force is also sometimes written in terms of the angular velocity ω of the object about the center of the circle:   (http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/a/c/8/ac8cadb8a51a0e53c5b1db26147639a4.png))

Thus a larger mass will increase the Force.
If we can increase the angular velocity (or the rotational speed), the force will increase even faster (related to the square of the angular velocity.  If angular velocity doubles, force increases 4 times).
We can also increase the radius.

This is why the Bessler Wheels got bigger and bigger with successive versions.

For a given Unbalanced Wheel to bring-in gravitational energy, the most practical way is to increase its velocity or rotational speed.  Thus the Chas Campbell arrangement should use Motor A to drive an Unbalanced Wheel at a reasonably high speed.  The Unbalanced Wheel itself can act as a flywheel to store mechanical energy.  A much greater torque is provided by the Unbalanced Weight.

The stored energy plus the greater torque will drive the shaft of a more powerful Generator B.  Additional gravitational energy is brought-in via the "jumping" action.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier with Unbalanced Cylinders shoulod be seriously considered.

Thus for practical experiments, a large wheel with large Unbalanced Mass and a reasonably high rotational speed is needed.  The minimum size I recommend is a bicycle wheel with a lead weight such as the Chan Wheel.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

One more thing to know about the Unbapenlanced Wheel.

Where does the brought-in gravitational energy go?

A pendulum will increase its amplitude.  An unbalanced wheel will increase its rotational speed.

This is why a Motor driving an unbalanced wheel needs less Input power to maintain the same rotational speed.

Are any of you in a position to put an unblanced bicycle wheel on the shaft of your small motor?  What kind of measurements can you do?

Morality Point:

If the amount of gravitational energy brought-in is rotational speed dependent, then a small Motor A can drive an Unbalanced Cylinder at sufficient rotational speed to bring-in enough energy to drive another more powerful Generator B.  If that rotational speed is maintained, the Generator B will be able to use the brought-in gravitational energy to supply energy back to Motor A.  Self loop + additional electrical energy to supply other appliances is entirely possible.

The Peru and Chas Campbell and Tong and Ting Wheels etc have sound theoretical backing.  Tinkering got them results doubted by the traditional scientists.  If they now put on Unbalanced Cylinders and present their vastly improved and reproducible results together with the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy theory...

Adding an unbalanced cylinder will make the QEG self loop...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.