12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[MarkE]

No external work is performed by the apparatus in your diagrams.

[Pirate88179]

No external work is performed by the apparatus in your diagrams.

You have to factor in the Lead Out factor.  You add 50% to the mass of M1 and then, as you can see, the mass of M1 has increased by 50%.

Simple.  Your adding the 50% Leads Out the 50% additional mass to M1.

Bill

[sm0ky2]

For those who cannot follow Physics Discussions, I have broken down the physics into baby steps.

Lawrence
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Thank you, now,. Let's take a look at steps 5, 6, and 7: that's where you completely fall apart.
 
Exactly how much is " the video shows hardly decreases", and how does that decrease correspond to the energy placed into the swinging mass to begin with? It is very simple, as we discussed in the first 10,000 posts of this thread but you weren't paying attention then either....

The answer to your problem is  momentum= m * v, assuming the mass was initially at rest, is also the same energy imparted into the ball to get it swinging thus at said velocity, resulting in said swing-height, at corresponding frequency, to exert said perpendicular force that lifts the other end of the lever.
Now, go back through the equation and ......
account for this in the proper manner.

No energy led in or out, except through tangential-force, thus converted into momentum - which is conserved through the swing, except when its path of travel is altered as it approaches bottom dead center, and back again as it receeds
resulting in a lower height of the next consecutive swing, a change in frequency, and loss of momentum, as the Input energy is consumed and the velocity of the swinging mass decreases.

Take a grandfather clock, and with simple conversion you can demonstrate the precise experiment, with both height and associated weights clearly available to you and various mechanism to transfer force to whichever plane of direction you wish, and the keeper mechanism to ensure that the lifted weight sustains the pendulum motion.

We have been using clockworks and weights to keep a pendulum moving for hundreds of years. Do this, and you can easily test how much "lead-out" energy you need to put into the pendulum to keep it moving.

[ltseung888]

Thank you, now,. Let's take a look at steps 5, 6, and 7: that's where you completely fall apart.
 
Exactly how much is " the video shows hardly decreases", and how does that decrease correspond to the energy placed into the swinging mass to begin with? It is very simple, as we discussed in the first 10,000 posts of this thread but you weren't paying attention then either....

The answer to your problem is  momentum= m * v, assuming the mass was initially at rest, is also the same energy imparted into the ball to get it swinging thus at said velocity, resulting in said swing-height, at corresponding frequency, to exert said perpendicular force that lifts the other end of the lever.
Now, go back through the equation and ......
account for this in the proper manner.

No energy led in or out, except through tangential-force, thus converted into momentum - which is conserved through the swing, except when its path of travel is altered as it approaches bottom dead center, and back again as it receeds
resulting in a lower height of the next consecutive swing, a change in frequency, and loss of momentum, as the Input energy is consumed and the velocity of the swinging mass decreases.

*** change in frequency???  Check the Physics...

Take a grandfather clock, and with simple conversion you can demonstrate the precise experiment, with both height and associated weights clearly available to you and various mechanism to transfer force to whichever plane of direction you wish, and the keeper mechanism to ensure that the lifted weight sustains the pendulum motion.

We have been using clockworks and weights to keep a pendulum moving for hundreds of years. Do this, and you can easily test how much "lead-out" energy you need to put into the pendulum to keep it moving.

Good.

Keep the scientific discussions going.  Knowledge is gained via discussions and experiments.  The discussions can come first.  Experiments will follow later.

Eight years ago, I made the mistake of doing experiments first - doing the Tong Wheel without adequate theoretical understanding.

Now, with 50 or more QMOGENs and more coming, I shall let others shine.

There is no need to get agreement now.  That is the nature of new scientific discoveries or inventions...  It is not majority wins. It is the scientific facts and evidence later.

Lawrence
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[MarkE]

You have to factor in the Lead Out factor.  You add 50% to the mass of M1 and then, as you can see, the mass of M1 has increased by 50%.

Simple.  Your adding the 50% Leads Out the 50% additional mass to M1.

Bill

Yes, it is very simple.  As long as we don't count what we put in:  We can have fantastic gains in what we get out versus what we choose to count.