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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Quote from: ChileanOne on May 02, 2007, 10:16:40 AMI know that one rather well known scientist performed a full lagrangean analysis of Milkovic ideas, and found nothing OU on it.

but... but... there is nothing "full analysis" about Lagrange.

and... and... there is nothing "well known" about the scientist either?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_mechanics
QuoteThis considerably simplifies many physical problems. For example, consider a bead on a hoop. If one were to calculate the motion of the bead using Newtonian mechanics, one would have a complicated set of equations which would take into account the forces that the hoop exerts on the bead at each moment.

The same problem using Lagrangian mechanics is much simpler. One looks at all the possible motions that the bead could take on the hoop and mathematically finds the one which minimizes the action. There are fewer equations since one is not directly calculating the influence of the hoop on the bead at a given moment. One of the key advantages of Lagrangian mechanics is that no vector quantities are involved in the calculations, which simplifies problems a great deal.

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Quote from: gyulasun on May 02, 2007, 07:38:48 AM
Hi All,

I found this interesting link referenced in Naudin's yahoo list.  It deals with harnessing secondary oscillations in connection with Milkovic dual mechanical oscillating setup.

Gyula

Hi Gyula,

Hans is correct in saying that the beam placed in resonant motion will start a
stationary pendulum in motion. This is because of the radius change of the
pendulum suspension. But this is the "only" case where the non feedback to the
pendulum can be dis-proven.

All that is required is a link from the beam to a vertical linear slide and no motion
of the secondary beam will induce the pendulum to swing.

In other words a very long secondary beam with short vertical travel will minimize
the radius change, thus reduce to zero any feedback from the secondary beam.

Take Care, 
Ron






JohninCR

While I believe the rig is nothing more than a lever, why not use simple voice coil motors to both extract the output and provide kicks to the pendulum?