12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[utilitarian]

@greendoorA bunch of genius types at MIT once said they would need 1000X more computing power to solve the inertial moments of a simple fluid filled pendulum and even then they conceeded that the accuracy would be too low to matter. Now put a pendulum on a lever weighted AND loaded on the other end---- the inertial,velocity,time variables are near infinite and yet you presume to understand what the boys at MIT admitted could never be calculated. When I built this machine I understood no simulator would solve this and that it could take years to get all the variables correct to produce the desired effects so I moved on to easier projects. Can you imagine an engineer of 20 years having operated 10,000HP turbines in a 160MW power plant intimidated by a simple pendulum as you say.
Go back to school you have no idea what your talking about

Just because we don't know exactly when it will stop swinging, doesn't mean we cannot predict that it will eventually.  I am sure the MIT guys could not predict which number on the roulette wheel a ball will stop on - doesn't mean it will keep hopping forever.

[broli]

Just because we don't know exactly when it will stop swinging, doesn't mean we cannot predict that it will eventually.  I am sure the MIT guys could not predict which number on the roulette wheel a ball will stop on - doesn't mean it will keep hopping forever.

"Yeah it might circle earth and go to the moon a few times but at the end it'll end up 1cm from its starting position." Kind of the same sense you're using. Predictions are useless in some cases you know.

[allcanadian]

Sorry for being rude in my last post Im having a bad hair day, my point is until we have spent 20 years exploring every possibility as some inventors have we will never know. We all know history is littered with examples where 99.9 percent of the people on this planet were wrong in there opinions ie Columbus--the world is flat, the Wright brothers airplane,Teslas alternating currents, Goddards rockets etc......So how can we be so sure we are not wrong now, in truth we cannot know until we have explored every concievable option which nobody seems to care to do. Read the history books---- we have been completely wrong many more times than we have ever been right.

[greendoor]

@greendoorA bunch of genius types at MIT once said they would need 1000X more computing power to solve the inertial moments of a simple fluid filled pendulum and even then they conceeded that the accuracy would be too low to matter. Now put a pendulum on a lever weighted AND loaded on the other end---- the inertial,velocity,time variables are near infinite and yet you presume to understand what the boys at MIT admitted could never be calculated. When I built this machine I understood no simulator would solve this and that it could take years to get all the variables correct to produce the desired effects so I moved on to easier projects. Can you imagine an engineer of 20 years having operated 10,000HP turbines in a 160MW power plant intimidated by a simple pendulum as you say.
Go back to school you have no idea what your talking about

You are right - I haven't got a clue what i'm talking about.  I must be a frikken moron.  But at least I didn't confuse a relatively simple pendulum & lever system with a hydrodynamic fluid-flow analysis.  That would be really ignorant ... 

Fluid flow has much greater potential for free-energy - especially if vortex flow is created.  You would basically have to account for the movements of every single molecule.  For example - does fluid flow impart some order out of chaos, and perhaps negative entropy?  Could the random brownian movement of particles be given a bias in one direction?  That would not add any new Energy into the system - but could it allow for some unexpected velocity increases? ... and from a local reference frame might this be percieved as power increase - like a tornado-in-a-can?  If we used some of this power, would the temperature of the fluid drop ... and would energy flow into this system? ... the questions go on and on ...

But you are right - I have no idea what i'm talking about.  Go right on looking for power out of a simple pendulum & lever ... you might get lucky.

[edelind]

G'day Broli and all,

This has been done many times. Brian Berrett and Ron Pugh have used similar arrangements. This is all documented. All have walked away from it since there is NO energy gain in the device!

Hans von Lieven

Where is documented? Do you have a link?

Also, they have walked away from what? From using an electromagnet to keep the pendulum working or from the entire Milcovitz device?