12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[dean_mcgowan]

AC,

Have you seen the pyramid resonating coil video posted here in overunity a while ago, he had fan running from that, I particularly like pyramids, like most of us fringies, i got quite hooked on them as a kid. I especially like the video where that gentleman proposes the power plant idea.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3182229760005676897&q=pyramid+power

All in good fun ofcourse, find him a little hard to take seriously.

Regards,

Dean

[Dingus Mungus]

I've been working on this in WM2D now for roughly 2 days and I wanted to report what I have found so far:

A component of the device does violate the law of conservation of energy, but NOT in a way that I can say is overunity yet. I can say it violates the conservation of energy in a simulated environment because I tested it by using two separate pendulums one stationary and one attached to a flexible lever. Both pendulums ran for the same amount of time so no power was taken from either pendulum by any force other than gravity and wind resistance, but the pendulum attached to the lever was able to supply a ample amount of power to a damper. The kinetic energy supplied to the dampers was somehow taken during interaction but the energy was taken in such a way as to avoid taking any kinetic energy from the pendulum. If the energy that was supplied to the dampers was taken from the kinetic energy of dropping the pendulum the pendulum would not be able to swing for as much time or at the same amplitude as the mirrored yet stationary control pendulum.

Am I missing something simple here? Is this really a violation of thermodynamics?

If anyone has a explanation for my findings or suggestions please respond with @dingus.

Thanks to all,
~Dingus

[dean_mcgowan]

@Dingus

The sum of the initial position and the resting states are still the same for each solution ?

Can you confirm that the damper did not impart the same amount of energy back to the system ? (or at least most of it)

[bsrinon]

Here's a link that shows the tension force produced by a pendulum that starts 90 degrees from equilibrium position.

http://www.vernier.com/discussion/index.html?topic=54

Basically, the tension force is 3 times the weight of the pendulum as it swings to it's lowest point, or equilibrium point.

It only takes a fraction of this force to keep the pendulum swinging. Maybe only 1/12 the power, as Milkovic mentioned. So everytime the pendulum swings, you get 3 times the force pulling down on the lever with only a fraction of the power needed to keep it swinging. One only needs to tap that power on the other end of the lever.

Maybe a crank connected to a flywheel could be used to tap that power. Then connect the flywheel to a generator using gear ratios to generate enough RPMs to run the generator. A fraction of that power produced is then fed back to solenoids to sustain the pendulum swing of about 90 degrees.

Of course in the process of converting mechanical to electrical you will loose some due to inefficencies, but with a ratio of 1 to 12 input to output, we have a lot of room for it.

Below is a diagram of a system that might work.

[gyulasun]

Hi Brian,

Very good catch on your link, thank you! At least they verified in practice the calculations and surely this 3 times as much force acting on the lever's arm is what could be utilized.
I fully agree with your drawing I wish I had all the mechanical means to test it. Hopefully others may get involved in it too.

rgds,  Gyula