12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[hansvonlieven]

Sorry Ron, I did not realise this is your report and your machine. Well built, I have no problems with this.

I do not agree with your method of measurement as you do not measure work performed but merely sinusoidal fluctuations in pressure between the lever arm and the couterweight.

If you were to mount two equal weights equidistant on a balance beam and mounted a load cell on either side in the same fashion it would take only a minute amount of energy to move the balance beam but you would get the same results.The sinusoidal characteristic shows the reversal of force direction only and adds up to zero in the end. There is no work performed.

I will draw the experiment for you if you wish.

Hans von Lieven

[hansvonlieven]

Do you not see these facts as something of importance?
Btw, hints and hints before, all acoustical amplifiers works by the same principle.
Without a resonant chamber all good blues and guitar music would have had to wait until the electrical power amplification era of tubes and transistors arrived. This goes also for any instrument using the phenomena. Now hans, in an energy conservation perspective, would you care to explain how this is possible?

There is no energy gain in a guitar for instance. It is simply a focusing and re-directing of the energy that is there.

Examples are a megaphone (acoustic focusing) or a parabolic mirror (optic focusing) It merely bundles available vibrations and re-directs them. There is NO net gain!

Hans von Lieven

[Nabo00o]

There is no energy gain in a guitar for instance. It is simply a focusing and re-directing of the energy that is there.

Examples are a megaphone (acoustic focusing) or a parabolic mirror (optic focusing) It merely bundles available vibrations and re-directs them. There is NO net gain!

Hans von Lieven

I'm sorry Hans but you are so wrong that you wouldn't believe it!
It is the common thought though that the amplification process in guitar cases and trumpets for example, or really at the core, the resonant chamber, is a process of focusing the sound in one direction.
However this is only the case of an parabolic antenna shape (or a hyperbolic shape) which will focus the sound at one specific point. I guess the only way you will learn this is by doing  a simple experiment as I did when I started to think about this stuff.

The shape of a trumpet does not only focus the small sound coming in, it does also amplify it many times and you can test this with a small headphone ( those you can place in the ear). By first listening to the volume without a trumpet and then place it at the opening of the trumpet, you WILL find that the volume its greatly increased (especially the lower frequencies, depending on the shape of course).

Now, if you are inside a room, point the trumpet in another direction and notice that the volume still remains high. This is not an results of focusing the sound in one direction, because in that case you would have far less volume than what you had even before you used the trumpet.

Also, just like a tuning fork on top of a soundbox magnifies its output many times, or as the strings on a acoustic guitar, the sound waves coming from the mouth will travel inside the resonant chamber of a trumpet and inside create standing waves. This waves will magnify the volume just like spinning a wheel will increase its rate of rotation. However, as opposite to the wheel, doing doing work on the air by transmitting that larger sound volume will not drain the oscillation down to a smaller level (as in the common LC tank for example).
This is again exactly how the Milkociv 2-stage oscillator works.

I'm looking forward to hear your report, and be prepared to be shocked 

[hansvonlieven]

If you read up on the classical experiment with the tuning forks in any good physics book you will find that I am correct.

Hans

[Nabo00o]

If you read up on the classical experiment with the tuning forks in any good physics book you will find that I am correct.

Hans

According to their explanation of the phenomena, yes. But if you want to apply the conservation of energy theory to a simple tuning fork experiment, first with a sound box, then without one, you will at least have to change some numbers around to make the results sound more "compatible" with current theory.
Its never easy to go against the tide, whether it is the "scientific" establishment or if it is the current religious beliefs at the moment.
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Hah, you're a Muslim and believe in falsehood, I'm a Christian and know you are wrong and will burn in hell!
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Dogmas can be a pain in the ass.....