12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Nabo00o]

It is vital that you pick up the max weight with the minimal movement of the pivot point of the pendulum.
To pick up 50 pounds 2 inches is the exact same thing as picking up 100 pounds 1 inch.

Exactly! This is what I was talking about further back in the tread, when I said that the pendulum was only drained by distance and not by force. No matter what kind of work you do with the 2-stage oscillator, as long as the distance traveled by the pendulum pivot is low, then there will be little energy lost from the pendulum, which you can compensate for by oscillating it at its resonant frequency.

My view is that this is an universal concept, and that there are many ways in which it could be used, and some where it already is (excluding the Milkovic pendulum).
Julian

[Cloxxki]

I'm Sorry Cloxxki  ;;  But something in your first statment tells me you do not understand the 2 stage oscillator ,  at all.
The power bar is a normal every day lever and it's math is directly proportional.  The power of the pendulum is it's leingth and weight and THAT is exponintal.
The leingth of the pendulum is it's timing and that is directly proportional.
The movment of the pivot point of the pendulm is the extraction point of the power produced by the pendulum. And this movment is a real loss of penulum power BUT it is exponintial.
It is vital that you pick up the max weight with the minamale movement of the pivot point of the pendulum.
To pick up 50 pounds 2 inches is the exact same thing as picking up 100 pounds 1 inch.
For experimental perposes. Almost any pendulum any leingth will work.
However ;;  If you need a particuler job done.  You will need to build the machine ti fit that job.
For example;;;;      I want a force of 25 pounds applied for a distance of 4 inches every two seconds.  I would need a four to one ratio power bar. A two meter pendulum swing. And a pendulum heavy enough to pick up 100 pounds 1 inch. @ a one to one ratio.A 50 to 60 pound pendulum would probably work very well here.This would allow the pivot point of the pendulum to move one inch up & down.
If we double the weight of the pendulum (leaving it's size and shape the same) it will have the same air friction with no need for incressed power input. However the power loss of the up and down motion IS doubled. So we reduce the up and down motion by half and double the ratio of the power bar and the needed input powr is reduced by 65 %. And you get the samre work out of the machine.
As you increes the leingth of the pendulum. You also incress the distance and speed it travles. Incressing air drag.  That is why on very larg machines it would be a great advantage to have a well aerodiamicaly designed pendulum.

    Raymond   RHead100

Thanks for the elaboration Raymond. I think I understand some of the 2-stage oscillator, but my sleep deprived English may have been unclear as to the amendment I was proposing.

For a non-stop working device (free energy power generator), I will agree that it is vital to bring down air drag. I do however heel that if something is 1200% efficient, air drag is the least of the concern to breach unity, unless the device is a mechanical butterfly.
I'm looking forward to seeing you bring that math into reality. If you do you are my hero, and I will dedicate serious time in finding further improvement based on the Raymond Device.

[Rhead100]

Cloxxki ;   Sometimes I can sound a little Ainal.  But;;    that is only the writen word. It can not show facial exprestion or tone of voice.  You are my friend first. And in no way did I mean any disrespect.

      Raymond   RHead100

[Cloxxki]

Cloxxki ;   Sometimes I can sound a little Ainal.  But;;    that is only the writen word. It can not show facial exprestion or tone of voice.  You are my friend first. And in no way did I mean any disrespect.

      Raymond   RHead100

No offence Raymond, even if you'd have meant it in a bad way. Some humility never hurt a man in search of greatness.
I may not always agree with doers like yourself (difference of opinion is the best chance to learn), but at least you DO, so I should keep a modest tone. Most of my ideas are blank shots. Sometimes I hit though, which makes the blanks worth it. Just a pain for you if you're getting only blanks from me :-)

I am actually very on the same page as you, I have a deeply founded belief that we can beat unity in a meachnical setup "tricking" weight/velocity/distance/height ratio's. Perhaps indeed the Milkovic invention can be "milked" off as you propose. The solution to THE problem would come from a different dymanic than I instictively expected, but it could also mean there are more ways to rome, and this would certainly help us locate the forgotten secret road going from the roundabout in the dark forest.
As a side note, I have great faith in Abeling-like gravity wheels, the dynamics intrigue me. And the guy seems to be very sincere. If it does, both may work on the same principle, but the pendulum if possible even complicates it all.
Furthermore, if it works, research will be required to create high-frequency systems. Like, a wheel, or OU rollercoaster with steel balls.

Looking forward to your updates,

J

[Cloxxki]

Indeed Jim, your wheels stop so abrubtly that a strong force must have been rubbed against its feathers. Obviously you're getting closer yourself ;-)