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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: Cloxxki on August 27, 2010, 05:25:21 PM
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I am myself wondering of the motives of the Milkovic and friends group. What are their intentions? Why come with such unfounded papers, and pendulums that merely focus peak load without OU?
Milkovic's science is like the emperor's new clothes. Only the really smart can understand it.

1.1x more output than input would be awesome already.

I agree.
By coupling a pendulum with a lever, Milkovic invented a useful device for human handling. Nevertheless there is no OU and Marjanovic's math and theory are obviously false (see http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1763.msg244606#msg244606). So we can think that it has now become a scam.

As already said, conventional laws of physics are internally consistant and imply momentum and energy conservation in a closed system. If energy appears not to be conserved, either the system is open (there is an external hidden source) or the laws of physics are not internally consistent.
To pretend to prove OU in a closed system by using conventional laws of physics, is consequently a sign of error, ignorance or scam. It is an easy way to dismiss the claimers and avoid time wasting.
And as OU is not provable by conventional laws of physics, experimental proofs beyond any doubt are required and will be the base for new theories. The lack of such proofs, often coming with premature fuzzy theories supporting no facts, is the second easy way to dismiss the claimers.



Omnibus

Quote from: exnihiloest on August 29, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
I agree.
By coupling a pendulum with a lever, Milkovic invented a useful device for human handling. Nevertheless there is no OU and Marjanovic's math and theory are obviously false (see http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1763.msg244606#msg244606). So we can think that it has now become a scam.

As already said, conventional laws of physics are internally consistant and imply momentum and energy conservation in a closed system. If energy appears not to be conserved, either the system is open (there is an external hidden source) or the laws of physics are not internally consistent.
To pretend to prove OU in a closed system by using conventional laws of physics, is consequently a sign of error, ignorance or scam. It is an easy way to dismiss the claimers and avoid time wasting.
And as OU is not provable by conventional laws of physics, experimental proofs beyond any doubt are required and will be the base for new theories. The lack of such proofs, often coming with premature fuzzy theories supporting no facts, is the second easy way to dismiss the claimers.

Don't waste the time of the readers with your rubbish. Assumptions such as the above regarding internal consistency are typical for stupid people.

Low-Q

Has some one ever heard about the Dunning-Kruger effect? Try to google it, or search in Wikipedia. Some people in this forum really should read about this effect. Interesting reading! It applies to most people who claim them self to have surprior knowledge and skills. I hope I do step on somebodys toes ;D

Vidar

Omnibus

That's an impossible way to explain away you lack of knowledge and incompetence. No effect you mention can substitute for your involving in hard work and systematic study at places dedicated for that called universities.

spinn_MP

Quote from: Low-Q on August 29, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
Has some one ever heard about the Dunning-Kruger effect? Try to google it, or search in Wikipedia. Some people in this forum really should read about this effect. Interesting reading! It applies to most people who claim them self to have surprior knowledge and skills. I hope I do step on somebodys toes ;D

Vidar
Dunning-Kruger effect? Right in the target. But Omnibot has been linked with that diagnosis many, many times before, at several forums...
Obviously, he doesn't agree with it...

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The Dunningâ€"Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence: because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[2]

"I proved OU beyond any reason of a doubt!".... (OmniBot, cca.2005-2010)

FFS...

Where the Hell is that proof of yours?