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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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johnny874

  @All,
Most people give up on ideas. The reality is sticking with one is like going to school. If you don't like homework, you won't like it. It can be as bad as a second job.
The idea of Tom's that I modified I sent to the guy who did the TSO. He has the means to try it and it is something like he is looking for. The idea is posted in it's own thtread.
For what I am building, I have tolerated much harassment and medical issues. And now I might slow down.
I was hoping other people might understand the hydraulic theory behind it but no one has.
Bessler's 300th Anniverasry is June 15th of this year. I may let it pass as I have a lot of things left undone in my own life because of medical problems.

@Neptune, I built as I could and was heavily criticized for it. And as Mohamed said, the fat man does not understand the thin man when he says he hungers. This simply means that people who have families will not udnerstand my situation.
I know the engineering is right but may give the inventor of the TSO the time he needs.

                                                                           Jim

gdez

 @ everyone
I'm really starting to enjoy this thread because if nothing else, someone is going to DISPROVE/Approve Milkovic's ideas sooner then later.He still has all his awards, and why? Because no one has proven him wrong yet. I am going to do my part by starting a new project. I already have plans and dimensions for a pinwheel escapent for the tsmo, that was recommended by Ben Van DE wall( A master of escapements). It adds power on both sides of the pendulum swing and I think it will prove once and for all wether This s%$t works or not. I think that alot of people don't understand that Rhead100 was trying to use an escapement to measure the excact power it took to drive the pendulum, and then see what you have leftover. I posted a new vid tonite. Take a look at it and think. In this model, how much work can I get out of the spring, compared to what it takes to "launch it.? Between the TSMO and eccentric flywheels, I think there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Cloxxki

@Jim
You are a brilliant and motivated experimenter and builder (whom I greatly respect for tham), but really unwise when it comes to engaging people in conclict situations. You even actively pick these conflicts. No-one cares who was unfriendly first, way back when.
I strongly advise you to stick to science, and refrain from responding to any perceived animosity. It doesn't work for you, clearly. It is not your hearing disorder, it is you being very, very touchy, taking any possible change to take things personally and run it through your own filter to give them a pre-determined meaning.

@gdez
What will it take to prove the 2SO as under-unity?
The inventor's team will keep claiming it was done all wrong, we failed to harvest the obviously hidden energy, just let it flow right through our fingers.
Perhaps the key is in measuring the effect on the pendulum. The energy it loses during it lift. And it in fact COSTS to make such a lift, with a dummy weight to replace the pendulum. What the CW really weighs to the platform supporting it, and how hard the wire already pull before the pendulum does any swinging.
the duration of the temporary lift, and how much of the rebound is required and actually used to drive the pendulum. Can half the CW effect the rebound action of swinging the pendulum back up?

Tell me if I can contribute. I don't have tools or money, but I have time and an open mind, not hindered by any indoctrination of an education.

neptune

@Johnny874 . I am genuinely sorry to hear about your health problems .To me , the family has always been the mainspring of my life , and I feel more than blessed in this department , so much so that I cannot imagine life without my wife , children and grandchildren .I feel that the importance of technology , mathematics and engineering is irrelevent unless we can all work together without calling each other names . It is often difficult to make someone else understand our ideas , even with diagrams and videos . Nobody knows everything about Free energy. If they did , we would have cracked it years ago .Whist being aware of my own limitations , I will say that I have yet to meet a person from whom I could learn nothing , including the "Village Idiot " . So it is vital that we all retain an open mind , and be willing to change our minds , should circumstances warrant it .
So let us all try to get along together .
      Regarding the 2so , at the moment , I think it is not OU , but am more than willing to be proved wrong on this . The other thing I have learned is to do my own experiments , rather than just believe what I am told .The great thing is for people to keep trying , and to discuss their work . Regards , Ken .

Cloxxki

@Neptune
I admire your composure and commend your methods, working witht he skillset you happen to have.

What saddens me about the FE community, one can throw in a 2SO, stick an expensive OU label to it, and make it the burden of the community to make it work for them, and to disprove it. We're so eager for new viable ideas, that we'll chase such a ghost for years. I myself have gained a bit of insight by the 2SO, as would any proper riddle, but in no way has it set me on a path towards OU.
The FE community needs to invest more time and effort (even money) into the 2SO to disprove it than the inventor ever did to vague and very shadily prove it. Only after a convincing disproval (we're almost sure it won' be accepted by the investor regardless how good it is), will we have ridden us of this project, and can this collective brainpower be put to fresh, more meritable ideas.