12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Paul-R]

Even the Egyptians in the time of Archimedes used something similar to a TSMO to draw water from the Nile to irrigate their fields. That was over 4,000 years ago.

Do you mean "Pharaoh's pump" or something else?

[johnny874]

Do you mean "Pharaoh's pump" or something else?

  They had a bucket on one side and a counter weight on the other. Made lifting the bucket easier. What I don't get is if using scissors would allow motion to be amplified (greater distance travelled) with no extra expenditure of energy, then what's the problem ? But it is one. Go figure, only in an over unity forum 

[Cloxxki]

Movement along the curvature of the earth is basically always free of charge unless you go look for resistance. Endless ways to get from A to B at no nett cost.
With a rod, pivot and some free space underneath, a dead weight turns into a pendulum that's already lifted to starting height.
I once made calcs online to show that a large enough pendulum of halfpipe track could compete with air travel for transit time. What it takes is height.
You can save energy from traditional modes of transport, reduce to zero theoretically, but you can't move up a weight by even 1mm for free.


He who shows me 1mm of free vertical movement, will receive a gravity wheel in return.


Again, this does NOT belong in this thread. The 2SO is supposed to be discussed, and I say it's a fraud or very unprofessional claim.

[johnny874]

Movement along the curvature of the earth is basically always free of charge unless you go look for resistance. Endless ways to get from A to B at no nett cost.
With a rod, pivot and some free space underneath, a dead weight turns into a pendulum that's already lifted to starting height.
I once made calcs online to show that a large enough pendulum of halfpipe track could compete with air travel for transit time. What it takes is height.
You can save energy from traditional modes of transport, reduce to zero theoretically, but you can't move up a weight by even 1mm for free.


He who shows me 1mm of free vertical movement, will receive a gravity wheel in return.


Again, this does NOT belong in this thread. The 2SO is supposed to be discussed, and I say it's a fraud or very unprofessional claim.

>>  Again, this does NOT belong in this thread  <<

I did send the suggestion to the guy who has the TSMO.
If you check early on, I posted that using a lever and another pendulum would only increase the entropic rate. It should be nothing new. Raising a lever does not necessarily mean the weight will be lifted. With the TSMO, it diminishes the swing which in turn diminishes the vertical drop. And it is the vertical drop which allows for acceleration. The distance over which a weight drops only slows it'sacceleration over time. Something very much accepted in physics is that a weight dropping 1m will have the same velocity after dropping one meter even if it rolls down a ramp. Resistence would make a slight adjustment, but the values would basically be the same.
But then, why not discuss how something could work ? I know, wrong subject.
Sorry and Au Revoir, Do Sveedanya   

[andrea]

The 2SO is supposed to be discussed, and I say it's a fraud or very unprofessional claim.

Ok Cloxxki, you said it many, many times. I think all the people in this forum understanded it: for you this machine is not OU. But, where's the problem if people reasons on 2SO again? If you look on the left of the page you could see this is a "overunity forum". Nothing wrong if in this place people talk about machines that could (or not) be overunity, I suppose...  Maybe it's you that are in the wrong place. 
Some considerations:
1) You speak about "fraud", well, remember that mr. Milkovic and mr. Marjanovic have never asked money or sold anything about the theory of 2SO. Do you know what it means to "respect" for those who put their own face in the game for free?
2) I have tried by myself to build this machine, starting in 2010. You could see my attempts in my youtube page, Babarlizia. Well, today (5-2-2012) I have not a response, I can't say if this machine is OU or not. I only know that it's very harder to build in all is parts, and I only know that if you have a pivot point's movement of ten or more cm the machine surely can't work. But it's very, very difficult reduce the displacement of this part.
3) A very interesting paper (distributed freely....) try to explain the maths of this machine. It doesn't say that this is always OU. It just assumes that the machine could be OU, given certain conditions. No one today has tried to realize a machine based on this formulas. Well, if you think that this is a very unprofessional claims, please read it and demonstrate that the formulas are wrong. Otherwise, please stop your posting "This is a unprofessional claim, this is a fraud, this is not OU". We all have understanded your concept, it's clear.

Ciao a tutti.