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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

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Paul-R

Quote from: ltseung888 on December 22, 2014, 02:52:38 PM


a. In the Lead-out or bring-in energy machine, additional energy Y comes from the environment.

b. This energy is NOT transferred from the user supplied horizontal energy. 


a. How does it come from the environment? From where, exactly?

b. Why is it not so transferred? (It is how we were taught and seems quite reasonable)

I hope you had a good Christmas.

ltseung888

Quote from: Paul-R on December 27, 2014, 04:25:21 PM
a. How does it come from the environment? From where, exactly?

b. Why is it not so transferred? (It is how we were taught and seems quite reasonable)

I hope you had a good Christmas.


1. In the simple case of a swinging pendulum with no outside forces and zero friction, there will be constant exchange of potential and kinetic energy.  The swinging pendulum is said to exhibit simple harmonic motion.  This is taught in all Schools and is absolutely correct.

2. When we apply a horizontal force to a stationary or a swinging pendulum, the "classroom" explanation is that the entire energy input must be from the work done by the horizontal force.  There is no energy lead-out or brought-in.

3. Another explanation that obeys the Laws of Physics is that the horizontal force will increase the tension in the string.  This increased tension will have a vertical component of force.  This vertical component will lift the pendulum bob.  This is the lead-out or bring-in of gravitational energy.  This energy is "stored" in the pendulum system.  For small angles, 2 parts of horizontal energy will lead-out 1 part of vertical gravitational energy.  This explanation is NOT taught in "classrooms".

In Physics, there may be more than one explanation to an observed phenomenon.  The scientific approach is to examine whether the explanation violates any existing Laws.  If the explanation does not violate any existing laws, we should try to use it to predict possible consequences.  We should also do experiments to verify the predicted consequences.

The Lee-Tseung Lead-out Theory predicts that the actual INPUT to a lead-out energy device is the sum of the user supplied energy X plus the lead-out energy Y.  This sum can be greater than the observed OUTPUT energy Z.  In other words, X + Y > Z.  This is physically and mathematically possible.

The experimental evidence comes from the Milkovic two stage pendulum or the Chan Wheel.  The INPUT (finger push of an inch) is less than the OUTPUT (74 pound weight raised to around an inch).  Raymond Head did not do accurate measurements.  He stated what he found to be "obvious".

There is another action that would lead-out gravitational energy in a two stage pendulum.  That is the "jumping" action on a lever or seesaw system. If the Weight on the LHS of a seesaw is 100 pounds and the Weight on the RHS is 95 pounds, the lever will be tilted towards the LHS (assuming that the lever arms are equal).  But if the 95 pound weight "jumps" up and down, the force exerted may vary from zero to more than 100 pounds.  A swinging pendulum or an unbalanced wheel exhibit such "jumping" effects.  When the RHS force is greater than 100 pounds, the Weight on the LHS will be lifted.  Work is done against gravity.  Gravitational energy is lead-out or brought-in into the lever system.  When the RHS force is less than 100 pounds, the 100 pound Weight on the LHS will tilt the lever back to its original tilted position.  So long as there is jumping action, gravitational energy can be lead-out or brought-in into the lever system.

I do not think the "jumping" effect is generally taught in "classrooms."

We have all seen athletes on the trampoline.  One "classroom" explanation of the great height achieved is that the amount of energy needed comes totally from the athlete.  Another "plausible" explanation is that some gravitational energy is lead-out or brought-in.

An accurate INPUT and OUTPUT measurement of the Milkovic 2SO will prove whether OUTPUT energy is greater than INPUT energy.

The Chan Wheel tries to do the same verification in a slightly different way.  The pendulum is replaced by an unbalanced wheel.  Experiments are being done.  Preliminary results show that the OUTPUT energy varied greatly with the "vibration" and the "setup" of the Chan Wheel.  If the screws are loose, the Chan Wheel shakes visibly.  The OUTPUT energy is low.  When the screws were tightened, the OUTPUT energy increased greatly.  However, the setup (actual lever arm lengths and Weights used) also changed the OUTPUT energy measurements.

More experiments are being done.  We shall "freeze" a setup that conclusively shows OUTPUT > INPUT.  Third parties will be invited to repeat and validate this setup.  They will also be encouraged to build their own Chan Wheels and find other setups.  (Hunting for resonance is similar to pushing the swing at the correct time.  Pushing with brute force at the wrong time may not get a greater swing.)
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Merg

Veljko Milkovic Research & Development Center
December 2014 - News


1.  Energy Turning-Point  --  New article by Veljko Milkovic

By observing living beings, it is not hard to notice that almost all movement is oscillatory. Just as the wind swings branches, many other plants bend under the force of the wind, thanks to their elasticity. The birds fly by flapping their wings; fish are similar as they oscillate their fins and tail. When discussing the movements of people and land animals, one can also talk about oscillatory movement. A similar situation can be found when observing internal organs. It is probably not by chance that such rational achievements exist in all living beings...

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/V...ning-Point.pdf


2.  Dry Friction and the Milkovic Effect  --  New scientific phenomena

Jovan Marjanovic, M.Sc, defined the occurrence of the Milkovic Effect in his new paper and thus gave the scientific support for Veljko Milkovic's thesis that the oscillations of the pendulum are more efficient than rotations.

The goal of this paper is to exclude dry friction as a cause of the increased duration of oscillation of a pendulum when compared to the rotation of a wheel, starting after the initiation of their movement and waiting until the movement is stopped by itself. Since this phenomenon was discovered by Veljko Milkovic, an inventor and a member of the academy of inventors of Serbia (SAIN),the author has chosen to name it the Milkovic Effect. The opinion of the author is that this phenomenon is complementary to the Aspden Effect, which will be further discussed in this paper, along with other inertial anomalies known to the author.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/J...c_Eff  ect.pdf


3.  Laboratory proof of the superiority of the flexible pendulum versus the electric motor

Laboratory measuring which proves the oscillation of a flexible pendulum to be a hundred times longer than the rotation of an asynchronous motor.
Measurement performed by Prof. Slobodan Milovancev, Ph.D., Faculty of Technical Sciences, University in Novi Sad, Serbia, June 04, 2014.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/M...ic_motor.p  df


4.  Support of the Academy of Sciences for further research

Academy of Sciences, Cultures and Arts of Vojvodina (ANKUV), as one of the most relevant scientific institution in Serbia which gathers the leading university professors and scientists, gave the official scientific support and recommendation for further scientific research of a very efficient pump with a pendulum.

Academy of Sciences, Cultures and Arts of Vojvodina
Prof. Lidija Cveticanin, Ph.D., Academician Prof. Milorad Miloradov. Ph.D.

Opinion on the Model of a Two-Stage Pendulum Driving a Pump
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/A...ing_a_Pump.pdf