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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

Emails have been sent to Tsinghua University, Taiwan Edison (maglev), Ymnee and QEG.

The Email informs them the explanation of the QMOGEN (reply 2826) and requests their cooperation to disclose more information on their technologies.

Insider information hints that the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier may still remain as a "State Secret" for now.  However, this is likely to change with the announcement of many more QMOGENs.

The replications of a simplified form of the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier are being discussed at a number of Institutions in Hong Kong.  Some may remain confidential.  Some academic institutions indicate that they may disclose the entire procedure.

The group that is most likely to succeed first is from India.  That group owns an Electricity Power Station and sponsored the development of the Milkovic 2SO at some Indian Universities.  Most probably, the statement from them will include a working prototype and a product announcement at the same time.

I do not have to replicate the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier myself.  Let others shine.

The Divine Wine flows...

I shall continue to sow seeds and ignore the debunkers.

Lawrence
see reply 2826
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

MarkE

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 11, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
Let me use reply 2826 in terms of Laws to do more explanation.  No Laws are broken.  Just wrongly applied in all these years.

1.   Law of Conservation of Energy

I shall focus on the class of lead-out energy machines.  If these machines can lead-out or bring-in energy from the environment, the Law of Conservation of Energy will not be violated.  The correct Formula in the case of gravity is:
Einput + Egravity = Eoutput + Eloss
or
Eoutput = Einput + (Egravity - Eloss)

So long as Egravity is greater than Eloss, Eoutput will be greater Einput.
All you have done is to declare that gravity is an energy source to your system.  But that is precisely the mighty fail in your evidence:  You have never shown any condition under which gravity is non-conservative, and therefore could be a source of energy.  Until you can come up with some evidence that gravity under some attainable circumstances is non-conservative, your "lead-out" ideas are dead:  full-stop.
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2.   Changing the problem – no laws are violated
Er, no, you depend on non-conservative gravity.  That is an unknown phenomenon.
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The problem changes from producing the impossible perpetual motion machine to producing a possible lead-out energy machine.

3.   The Law of the Lever – Clockwise and Anti-clockwise moments
Over 2000 years experience shows that levers manipulate force, not energy. 
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The Raymond Head (RHEAD100) video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8) showed that the Weight W1 was lifted twice with each finger push.  This was the result of the Centrifugal Force plus the weight of the pendulum producing a varying clockwise moment.  When it was greater than the anti-clockwise moment of the weight W1, the lever tilted higher on the LHS.  The weight was lifted.  When it is smaller, the lever tilted higher on the RHS - returned to original position.
The weight rises and then falls to its original position.  That means the net work performed each cycle is ZERO.  If his system had no losses, then he would not even have to breath on it to keep it cycling.  The fact that he has to do work each cycle means that the system has losses.  It is dissipating his input without delivering ANY net output energy.
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Notice that the original position (state) was reproduced with the finger push.  The energy used in the finger push is much smaller than the energy required to lift the weight W1.
Which for the reasons explained above only proves that the machine requires input to produce no output.
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Anti-clockwise Moment is always constant.  Clockwise moment varies as it is the sum of the force due to m2 and the Centrifugal Force.  The vertical component of the force due to m2 varies.  The Centrifugal Force also varies.

From the energy point of view, the Output was m1gh.
That's true during part of the cycle.  In the other half of the cycle the output is -m1gh, resulting in ZERO NET OUTPUT EACH CYCLE.
QuoteSome of this Output was fed back to return the pendulum bob to the original position. That energy was m2gh.  Thus there was a difference of (m1-m2)gh.  If properly configured, this value would still be much more than that supplied by the finger push.  Where did this energy come from?
You have made critical accounting errors.  You fail to account for the energy lost when the weight falls again.  GIGO.
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4.   Law of Experimental Observation – pendulum swing does not decrease
That is false.  He has to keep pushing on the pendulum in order to keep it going even though the system is performing NO USEFUL WORK.
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The experimental observation was that the pendulum swing amplitude did not decrease.  Thus the excess energy was not transferred from the pendulum swing.
There is no excess energy.  The machine dissipates the input work that he supplies while performing NO USEFUL WORK.

One scientific explanation was- energy was lead-out or brought-in from the gravitational field.[/quote]Such an explanation is a complete fail because it attempts to account for something that is not observed.
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5.   Extending the Law – from Pendulum to Unbalanced Wheel
There is no phenomenon of work performed, much less a law.
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Thus the Milkovic 2SO is a lead-out gravitational energy device.  The Chan Wheel is a superset of Milkovic. I have the Chan Wheel in Taipo, Hong Kong.  I can claim to have a working lead-out energy device in my possession...
Thus you are unable to perform the simplest evaluation of a machine.  You claim a net output where no net output exists and descend into rationalizations after that.
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If the Unbalanced Chan Wheel can bring-in gravitational energy, the Unbalanced Cylinder Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier can do better. 
Neither can.  Neither do.
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The 57 QMOGENs compiled by Sterling Allan are all theoretically possible...
No, there is no valid theoretical basis why any of them should work as claimed.  Neither is there any demonstration of any of them working as claimed.
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Lawrence
See reply 2826

Temporal Visitor

Quote from: MarkE on March 11, 2015, 04:31:21 AM
Over 2000 years experience shows that levers manipulate force, not energy. 

That's another invalid assertion MarkE.

Force is ENERGY known as MECHANICAL ENERGY with the ABILITY TO DO WORK. Levers provide "Man", men the means of manipulating MECHANICAL ENERGY, at MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE. (in some cases, and even animals as well)

You can't have it both ways MarkE since you already stated: "Foot pounds are units of ENERGY: 1 lb force applied through 1 ft distance." which describes a simple lever being acted upon by FORCE. (See:  Re: Flywheel devices « Reply #87 on: March 09, 2015, 07:52:35 AM » "Your key concepts are a confused mess.")

Please fully explain your CON-flicting assertions.


Void

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 11, 2015, 04:25:28 AM
The Email informs them the explanation of the QMOGEN (reply 2826)

Hi Lawrence. I read through your reply 2826, and there are no explanations in there
about how a QMoGen works that I could see.  The QMoGens demos that I have seen in videos do not appear to
use unbalanced wheels or unbalanced cylinders. If some of these devices really are over unity then
it appears they are working on some other principle other than gravity use/unbalanced wheels or cylinders.
The William Skinner device did appear to use eccentric shafts and weights, so it may possibly
fit to your theories however.

Here's one example of a 'QMoGen' type device. This could well be a fake however, as you can't tell at all from a video
if such a device is genuine or not, but, at any rate, this particular device just appears to use a fly wheel, and
I think possibly a modified electric motor, as they mention using neodymium magnets in the motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLLnUOPOQk

All the best...



Paul-R

Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 11, 2015, 06:54:22 AM

Force is ENERGY known as MECHANICAL ENERGY with the ABILITY TO DO WORK.
We have a language to share in order to communicate. It should be used properly.

Force x Distance moved = Work done.

Power = Work/Time.

If you check the units of force, work, energy and power, you will find this is so.