12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Low-Q]

Let us wait for PIH123 - a real professional in aerodynamics.  In the Internet, a layman and an expert can post.  Opinions are expected to differ.  The reader has to use his own judgment.

.Opinions do not count. Judgements do not count. Facts do count.

My judgment is that Tsinghua University QMOGEN is not a hoax and has been running since 1996.  The theory of lead-out energy is correct.  It explains the energy source of the device.  A good number of the over 50 QMOGENs compiled by Sterling Allan are not hoaxes.

You have failed showing us ONE working device. Tsinghua University does not have any QMOGEN - Go to their website and check for yourself. They have educational approaches that has something to do with energy, but not lead-out energy.

It is also my judgment that both China and USA have Flying Saucers in development.  Some sightings and photos of UFOs are the results.

You have failed in showing us ONE flying saucer that perform outside the laws of physics. Seeing or recording events that is not easy to explain does not mean it is out of this world of science and physical laws. By not being exactly able to explain the lights and fast moving objects does not mean it is something extraordinary about them. Most of them are proved as hoax or misunderstandings, handheld camcorders for example makes it easy to believe a recorded object changes directions faster than physics can predict.

My job is to sow seeds.  Let some readers think - can QMOGENs be real?  Can lead-out energy theory be correct?  Are Chinese and USA military developing Flying Saucers if the scientific explanation is laid out here?

So go on and sow som seeds that will grow into real products. We cannot relay on seeds that produce imaginary results - it does not satisfy our hunger.


1. Fill your saucers with gruel, and satisfy your hunger.
2. Harvest the vast amounts of energysources that already exist.
3. The first two will make you a more happy person :-)

[Merg]

New replica & public demonstration of the two-stage oscillator by Peter Salocher

Kraftverstärker und Solarkocher
Peter Salocher zeigt einen vollkommen mechanischen Kraftverstärker und eine energiesparende Solarkochkiste. Ausführliche Selbstbauanleitung auf http://WasserStattSprit.info

https://youtu.be/fEA6UPm_RZQ?t=1m4s

(English & German subtitles available)

[ltseung888]

I do not rely on reading information from the Tsinghua University Website.

Lee, Wang and I were there - giving lectures and had in depth discussions with the Professors and Research Students.  We got the picture of the QMOGEN.  At that time, Tsinghua University did not have the lead-out energy theory to explain the energy source...

I looked at the Milkovic 2SO 10 years ago but did not see.  With Divine Blessing, I saw that it was OU a few months back.  The whole picture came together.  The Chess game is now won.  Every major puzzle has been solved.

It was like the Internet 4 decades ago.  I still remember the violent arguments that Computers were too expensive for everyone to own; telephone lines were too slow and no one would build such infrastructures; there would not be enough security protection for data; it would require experts to use; etc...

Now, I predict the following:

1. Within this century, every family will own one or more Flying Saucers.  No runway is needed but there will be systems and infrastructures to ensure the smooth running of millions of Flying Saucers.  Many automatic guidance systems will be in place.
2. The Flying Saucers will use lead-out energy that are non-polluting, available everywhere including outer space.
3.  Motor cars and airplanes will be obsolete and will only be found in museums.
4.  The energy supply system will be decentralized.  The grid will no longer exist.
5.  Two important starting players will be China and USA.  Others will catch up quickly. Some powerful existing interests will fight to prevent its happening. India is a likely candidate to surge ahead bypassing such in-fighting.
6.  Lead-out, bring-in or some other more fancy name will be taught at all Universities and Schools.  This thread and the earlier ones will be "researched" by historians.

I may not be able to ride on a Flying Saucer but my two grand daughters will use them as every day transport.

Divine wine flows...

Lawrence
see 3038 3092

[ltseung888]

New replica & public demonstration of the two-stage oscillator by Peter Salocher

Kraftverstärker und Solarkocher
Peter Salocher zeigt einen vollkommen mechanischen Kraftverstärker und eine energiesparende Solarkochkiste. Ausführliche Selbstbauanleitung auf http://WasserStattSprit.info

https://youtu.be/fEA6UPm_RZQ?t=1m4s

(English & German subtitles available)

When will they replace the pendulum with the properly unbalanced wheel or cylinder?

[ltseung888]

Will the USA patent be a road block to QMOGEN development?

Has the time limit for International patent expired?