12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[ltseung888]

It is not neccessary to measure torque when you and me already knows there is no over unity or lead-out energy involved.

As you also know well, is that torque alone does not tell us anything about the energy output or input. You need to multiply torque with angular velocity to find the energy output.
You can have great torque, but no angular velocity - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.
You can have great angular velocity, but no torque - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.


Vidar

It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
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[MarkE]

It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
rely 3038 3092

LOL, neither Organization X, nor even Racer X can make your fantasy true.  Vidar's experiment was actually very scientific.  Unlike you, he actually conceived, executed and presented an experiment that proved his contentions.

[ltseung888]

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2013:12:21#1930.2F1960_QMoGen_and_1882_patents_--_It.27s_variants_have_been_around_a_long_time

From: Butlergrt
To: sterlingda
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: 1930/1960 QMoGen and 1882 patents, it's variants have been around a long time

Good Evening,
I believe many of you will find this most interesting, if you read it in it's entirety and think about it... Oh the surprises in life! A patent in 1882 and the U.S. Navy.
The QMoGen and it's variants has been around since 1882, less self-looping and then maybe....

The lead-out energy theory provides the theoretical justification for something that existed for a long time...

Those who do not understand Physics and Centrifugal Forces cannot see even it they look.  They cannot understand (or paid not to understand).  The logical path to take is to ignore them...

Lawrence
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[Paul-R]

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2013:12:21#1930.2F1960_QMoGen_and_1882_patents_--_It.27s_variants_have_been_around_a_long_time

I believe many of you will find this most interesting, if you read it in it's entirety and think about it... Oh the surprises in life! A patent in 1882 and the U.S. Navy.

"Of these, closest to the QMoGen is the Amplidyne developed in WWII by Mr. Alexanderson in 1943..."

Some fairly complicated motor systems here:
EFW Alexanderson.  Electric drive. Feb 23rd, 2,312,061 and 62,  April 6th, 2,315,489  (and 90 and 91).


List:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PALL&RS=%28IN%2Fanderson+AND+ISD%2F1943%29&Refine=Refine+Search&Query=in%2Falexanderson+and+isd%2F1943


First doc:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=02312061&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsearch-adv.htm%2526r%3D7%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526S1%3D%28alexanderson.INNM.%252BAND%252B1943$.PD.%29%2526OS%3Din%2Falexanderson%252Band%252Bisd%2F1943%2526RS%3D%28IN%2Falexanderson%252BAND%252BISD%2F1943%29&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page

Can someone review this lot? They're beyond my ken.

[Low-Q]

It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
rely 3038 3092

Ther is no "if". Lead out energy does not exist. And again, energy involves more than torque. Guess what.
Organization X might exist, and if it does, there are 60 ignorant members of it - all not capable to fix a broken wheel.


Vidar