12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[hansvonlieven]

Hans - (or anyone) 

I've tried to implement a "spiral" cog like this... always results in too much friction as well as a "braking effect" on the transition.
Any recommendations on an ideal way to do this?  Materials to use?  etc?  Have you implemented this design component before?  Successfully?

Many thanks in advance,

CH

These types of cams are quite common. The problem you are having is that there is not enough energy in the system to drive it.

The earlier post is Milkovic's think on how to achieve a closed loop. The problem with this design is that the stroke lengths vary. When the pendulum swings towards the fulcrum the stroke length is different to when it swings away from it. A crankshaft as depicted requires even stroke lengths in order to function.

Hans von Lieven

[Talmin]

I watched the video Universal Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator -- A Mechanical Amplifier again - and it seems to me that the part where this diagram is shown is something like what is copied from internet - I noticed some letters, more diagrams, printed copy of peswiki article, printed copy of this overunity forum topic... so probably this diagram is also something copied from the web...

I tried some google search and I found this forum with the same diagram and Italian description on that diagram that cannot be clearly seen in the video:
http://energierinnovabili.forumcommunity.net/?t=4759206&st=75

[capthook]

Thanks for your replies -

Talmin -
Good find - much better picture. (see attached)

Hans -

"The problem with this design is that the stroke lengths vary."
I agree - as the problem comes with the irregularity of the pulses and syncing them up to create a working OU system.

As to the cog - the attached modified diagram shows the upper point as a bearing reducing friction rather than a static point greatly.  The "spiral" would ideally have a bearing as well?  How to get it to "travel" the "spiral"?  Hmmm - I guess I could put a multiple of bearings around the the length of spiral.... adding a lot of weight... but improving performance?  Even if "there is not enough energy in the system to drive it" - if there was - it would still be ideal to maximize performance by overcoming the friction produced in the original diagram by some such method?
Ideas of better ways to do this?

CH

[capthook]

More directly:

I'm trying to move the pendulum from the 6 o'clock position by 45 degrees to the right applying the spiral cog to the pendulum support.  As such - attaching a bearing to the pendulum "strut" is no good as the angle changes and frustrates proper contact - there by the need to have bearing/bearings on the "spiral" of the cog.  How to reduce the friction/impact of the spiral on the pendulum "strut"??

[supersam]

@all,

having looked at this site,since the beginning and doing several experiments, i now realize that you can't take the power off of the center fulcrum, without killing the effect.  there is simply not enough torque.  however looking at the water pumping proplems with a very innefficient type of pump even,  i have to ask the stupid question,  has noone ever heard of a "foot valve"?  it seems to work much like a diode, only allowing water to flow in one direction.   when used with air it can effectively increase the distance verticaly that you can pump water by the use of an air tank with a bladder.

it seems to me if we can develop enough head pressure, whith water, and the right water turbine, we should be able to have a closed loop, where we can run the pendulum with the power generated.

lol
sam