Posting an open source device for free to the world.

[TinselKoala]

Putting cart before horse again?

[conradelektro]

If you want to patent an OU device (or any device violating established physics or chemistry) you first have to remove all allegations that known concepts are violated. E.g. you have to remove the allegation that the device is OU. This formal requirement is easily remedied.

The patent examiner will not check whether the device works or not. If for some reason one can easily argue that it it will not work the patent examiner will write you the argument. But this is also rather a formality and can be remedied by changing the wording.

The real hurdl is that only specific devices can be patented and not a law of nature which is often called a discovery. If you see that a stone is falling towards the ground, you can not patent this observation or discovery, because it always was like this, it is a given. If you build a device that produces OU it will be based on something you discovered, a property of some material or a hitherto not discovered force or field in nature.

You can well patent a specific device which takes advantage of this property of a material or of this newly discovered force or field. But everybody can build a different device which also takes advantage of your discovery. People will improve your device and will find other ways to take advantage of your discovery. And because your device will be a prototype, many improvements will be necessary to make it useful. So, the professionals who take over (labs, universities) will outsmart you immediately and will file patents for their improvements.

This is true for all devices not only for alleged OU devices. Filing a patent gives away the principle according to which the device works. And the principle is very often more important than the device. If you know the principle of operation you can easily design different devices taking advantage of that principle.  This is the reason why there are millions of patents. The law that one can not patent principles or discoveries is a cornerstone of the patent system.

The most important hurdle for a patent on a OU device is that a patent will not matter. If you really discover a principle which allows for a OU everybody will take it out of your hands and many will claim that they have discovered it and not you, just by presenting the same principle with other words. Take for instance the atomic bomb, every country with enough resources built one after having understood the working principle of the first atomic bomb (some might even have stolen the plans of the first atomic bomb).

A discovery allowing to generate OU is too important to keep protected, all laws are off, greed and the need for self preservation takes over. It simply might be too dangerous to have such a device in the hands of the wrong person. And the wrong person is definitely you (yes, you dear reader, also me).

But do not be afraid, you will not discover such a principle or force or field. You can only talk about it endlessly. But just in case you do succeed, run and hide, and by all means, shut up!

Greetings, Conrad

[forest]

Conrad


It is already discovered.It's magnetic  field. Magnetic field is OU all the time, the problem is only with devices to tap it.

[conradelektro]

It is already discovered.It's magnetic  field. Magnetic field is OU all the time, the problem is only with devices to tap it.

Also the forces which cause the atoms to stay as they are have to be OU, they never weaken.

But for practical reasons the sun is OU for us humans. The sun will shine longer than any human civilization will last, therefore its output is infinit for us. And if against all odds we outlive (as a species) the sun, we can go to the next younger star and stay there again for billions of years.

The sun causes the wind on earth, therefore, the wind is OU. And the moon causes the tides, therefore the tides are OU. And finally we could tap into the heat of the core of the earth, which will also last for millions of years.

We have OU (photovoltaics, wind power stations, tidal power stations, geothermal heat) and we just have to build the equipment to use it.

I think that pretty soon we will have enough wind power stations and photovoltaic installations to generate all power needed (at least in Austria). I could become independent from grid power by investing about 40.000.-- EUR in the necessary equipment (photovoltaic panels, batteries and the electronics). But I need less than 2000.-- per year for my power (electricity, heating) and will not live for another twenty years. Therefore I refrain from the investment.

Greetings, Conrad

[AlienGrey]

The problem is it's a petro dollar economy, know in the west, however a gold backed economy has always ended in tragedy in the east, so try it and see how far you get!